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Old 03-29-2015, 06:48 PM   #41
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I wasn't planning on getting into all that. I have pics I'll try to upload. $3850. It also included ripping out the bottom 3 levels of siding and putting in hardie plank, 8 on a short side of the porch and repairing 4 rotten soffits. I figured it was a good enough price, about $2500 for painting and the rest for carpentry, maybe a little high, but I thought I was hiring a better than average painter.
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I am always shocked at how little money people will take to paint a house. I am glad I am not in that business.

Edit: I realize it's not a question of the business. I'm shocked at how little money some people will take to remodel a house, wire a house, roof a house, floor a house, etc. etc. etc.
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Old 03-29-2015, 09:30 PM   #42
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If you think above stated price was " a little high " you have got to be high. Your post states how fast can you paint a house? Maybe their thinking was how fast can you cut me a check. Sounds like you were looking for a hit and run and don't look back.
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I don't know why it would sound like that is what I was looking for. Nor do I think that is a lowball price. But if that's your opinion, ok. Having heard what other people pay for similar work around here it sounded like it was in the ballpark. I haven't heard of people paying more than that, unless it's a bigger house, all siding, etc.

Anyhow, he came out this morning and agreed with me so they'll be back out to redo it. I guess we'll see how that goes.
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I don't know why it would sound like that is what I was looking for. Nor do I think that is a lowball price. But if that's your opinion, ok. Having heard what other people pay for similar work around here it sounded like it was in the ballpark. I haven't heard of people paying more than that, unless it's a bigger house, all siding, etc.

Anyhow, he came out this morning and agreed with me so they'll be back out to redo it. I guess we'll see how that goes.
Don't worry about it. Everybody here thinks everyone else is a lowballer.

I've had houses painted for $1,000. And it looked good.
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It doesn't matter how much you paid. The contractor agreed to do the work properly for that price. Have them come back again and don't pay until you're happy. I do roofing and gutters but I'm pretty sure that looks like crap.
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Don't worry about it. Everybody here thinks everyone else is a lowballer.

I've had houses painted for $1,000. And it looked good.
LOL! I painted an exterior house one time for $1000...

When I first started, I low balled the crap out of it!

it cost $700 in paint and I made $300 in profit.


But i did the best job I could, even after realizing my huge estimate mistake.


And the house turned out fantastic...
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It doesn't matter how much you paid. The contractor agreed to do the work properly for that price. Have them come back again and don't pay until you're happy. I do roofing and gutters but I'm pretty sure that looks like crap.
Lol it is crap... I wouldn't settle with that poor quality job as a painting contractor.
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LOL! I painted an exterior house one time for $1000...

When I first started, I low balled the crap out of it!

it cost $700 in paint and I made $300 in profit.


But i did the best job I could, even after realizing my huge estimate mistake.


And the house turned out fantastic...
$700 in paint, plus overhead and your salary, how could that be $300 in profit?
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Here's the other picture of the chimney. It wouldn't take a minute ago. If he painted it twice I wonder why he wouldn't paint the bottom part either time. When I do a job I step back and look at it. No way I would have ever let this go. I'm not a painter, but when I try I put paint on the entire surface I am painting.
Well your hardie is installed wrong as well. It shouldn't bee that close to the roof surface or it will have water uptake into the ends. That job is setup to fail as is.
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They came back out yesterday. Then they just disappeared around 1. I suppose they got there at 10 as that is what he had said and that's when the dew dries up. I had arranged to be off and was going to walk around with those guys but they vanished. I also told the boss I expected him to be there but he wasn't.

I figured out what the problem is. They didn't spray like everyone was saying, they used rollers. They must keep their rollers pretty dry to avoid drips because this layer of paint, while it covers most of the old paint now, you can still see through in lots of places. If there was a discoloration beneath it you can still see it. The other problem is they don't use brushes. They still haven't hit in the corners, underneath the siding overlaps, and many edges and hangovers because you can't do that without a brush.

I guess I'm shooting him another email. It's their loss, too. I get asked for painting referrals a couple dozen times a year.
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Are they licensed, bonded, insured? How much have you paid them? Did you have a written contract?

Even if they return again and complete the touch-ups, one of your biggest problems is not knowing whether 1 coat or 2 were applied. The only way to be certain is with a dry film thickness gauge. If the situation doesn't get resolved, buy one and test it in as many areas as possible, and record results.

There are available avenues for recourse in the event you cannot come to a resolution, most of which are predicated on hiring a licensed contractor.
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I don't know whether Texas licenses painters. But they are bonded and insured. It's a franchise. A copy of their insurance was with the quote.

I know they have been over most of the surfaces 2 times, but each "coat" is certainly thinner than the specifications. Sherwin Williams says a coat of Duration dried is 2.2-2.6 mils thick. Both of their "coats" are probably less than that.

Will such a gauge work on a surface that had old paint on it? Can it tell you how thick just the new paint is? There are many places with new wood or siding, so all of those could be tested for sure.

There's no way my paint is 4.4-5.2 mils thick, which is really what I paid for. Even after two trips back out, they still haven't hit all the edges and corners and bottom edge of the siding. Today the boss man came out and did it himself. It boggles the mind. This time it was him personally and he didn't paint places that I had pointed at today.
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You didn't hire professional painters they are fly by nights. A franchise? What the house painting division of Earl Scheib?
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Is it College Painters? Or whatever they call themselves these days.

There is no way a couple of guys can give a good coat on a whole house by rolling in a few hours.

What do you want to bet that we will see this guy pop in here with his first post and complain about how unreasonable this freakin' Bug Guy he is painting for is. Then he will ask about the workman like level a customer should expect for 3,500 bucks.
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I don't think they ever paint houses right or they would have done it by now. I figure part of the problem is that they buy the paint, so the less they use the more money in their pocket.

I can contest it with the credit card company and get into that whole fight, but I don't think it's worth the time and hassle. I don't know why I thought they would do it right the second or third time. We'll just finish it ourselves.
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I figure part of the problem is that they buy the paint, so the less they use the more money in their pocket.
That's not part of the problem at all. I would expect any painter to supply the paint. The problem was that the price was far to low to provide materials and quality labor for the scope of work.
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That may be true in your area. As I said, most people pay less than I did to get their house painted here.

Even if it is underbid, that's irrelevant, as a fellow said earlier. I have underbid work before, I still did the job properly. It was a reminder to me to price things properly next time, not an occasion of me providing second rate work.

I understand your point, and have seen that happen. If a job is underpriced and the workers are paid on commission, they aren't going to do great work. These people are his employees, I expect them to do the same job every time no matter how much money the boss makes. He uses the same guys at every job. I doubt he has an A crew that does great work that he only brings in when someone is paying top dollar.
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That's not part of the problem at all. I would expect any painter to supply the paint. The problem was that the price was far to low to provide materials and quality labor for the scope of work.
That's actually a quick and easy job to do right - $3500 would be fine a lot of places in Texas. Normally these are spray jobs.
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That may be true in your area. As I said, most people pay less than I did to get their house painted here.

Even if it is underbid, that's irrelevant, as a fellow said earlier. I have underbid work before, I still did the job properly. It was a reminder to me to price things properly next time, not an occasion of me providing second rate work.

I understand your point, and have seen that happen. If a job is underpriced and the workers are paid on commission, they aren't going to do great work. These people are his employees, I expect them to do the same job every time no matter how much money the boss makes. He uses the same guys at every job. I doubt he has an A crew that does great work that he only brings in when someone is paying top dollar.
I understand. I've lost money on jobs and still delivered top quality. But that's what I do. Some companies habitually underbid and deliver poor quality. That's what they do.
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I understand. I've lost money on jobs and still delivered top quality. But that's what I do. Some companies habitually underbid and deliver poor quality. That's what they do.
Don't confuse delivering poor quality with underbidding.

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