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Old 12-07-2008, 11:12 PM   #21
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Behr Enamel Undercoater Primer, Behr Premium Plus Semi Gloss. The primer is a leveler and lays down your topcoat like glass, don't over brush the Semi, let the primer do it's job of leveling it out. If you over brush the Semi it will start to dry and thats why you get those lovely brush marks in the finish. Behr isn't all water like most pro paints, so get it on and let it lay down on its own.

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Old 12-08-2008, 12:49 AM   #22
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I like sw southwest builders enamel alot. Proclassic has several things I don't like about it. It gives me bad headaches (Has a very strong ammonia odor); I have found that it doesn't spray well and orange peels easily. It's 30% more than the southwest builders and the coverage of the southwest is the same if not better. The southwest builders is pretty forgiving to spray, brushes well and costs 22 per gallon. That being said it doesn't look like the paint by RC Painting. That stuff looks awesome!
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Holy reflectivity Batman!!!
Almost too much in the hallway. Makes me think of overspray.
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I like Cashmere low lustre for overall great looks.
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Muralo is the best I've ever used . I've tried Pro-classic and it's just not as easy to work with. I wipe down all moldings with a wet (damp) rag. Apply paint with a small roller and brush it out.
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Damn, that sologloss looks great but I don't have that in Indiana. We use Pro Classic semi gloss for our trim. A couple of tips about using pro classic, number one like someone mentioned above, it's hard to work with straight out of the can. I suggest breaking down each gallon with floetrol, this is for brushing only. If spraying, I spray the stuff right out of the can. It's a good paint but tricky to work with.
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Muralo is the best I've ever used . I've tried Pro-classic and it's just not as easy to work with. I wipe down all moldings with a wet (damp) rag. Apply paint with a small roller and brush it out.
You cannot overwork it.
Lay it out, even the mils with a quick tip off and move on.
Anything more and you are asking for trouble, especially with a latex.

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Damn, that sologloss looks great but I don't have that in Indiana. We use Pro Classic semi gloss for our trim. A couple of tips about using pro classic, number one like someone mentioned above, it's hard to work with straight out of the can. I suggest breaking down each gallon with floetrol, this is for brushing only. If spraying, I spray the stuff right out of the can. It's a good paint but tricky to work with.
Ack, more latex ProClassic!!
I wish SW would discontinue the ProClassic waterborne product, the alkyd version is far superior. I add a bit of mineral spirits to the alkyd ProClassic and apply with an Ox hair brush to achieve the "sprayed" look when spraying is not an option.
Why doors and trim are spec'd for latex is beyond me.
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The only time I will ever use Pro Classic Latex is when I can spray it. I sprayed out 180 enamel packages at a high-end retirement complex with the Pro Classic Latex and it looked like a guitar finish.

I had to brush out some handrails in the hallways and it straight sucked. I switched over to 200 Semi...not one issue.

Brushing it brings sags and curtains...and yes I know how to use a brush.

As far as latex trim paints-

Spraying Scenario: SW Pro Classic (209 or 210 tip)
Brush/Roll: Duration Interior (very durable...hence Duration)
or even 200 Semi.

If I am using oil-

Spraying or Brushing: SW Pro Classic Alkyd....and I love an Ox Hair Brush.
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Brushing it brings sags and curtains...and yes I know how to use a brush.
are you sure? i have used it hundred of times and never had an issue...
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are you sure? i have used it hundred of times and never had an issue...
It will sag straight out of the can, that's why we cut it with floetrol to ensure it doesn't. The floetrol helps it level, which seems to be it's biggest weakness out of the can.

Wise painter is correct too, the Pro Classic oil is fabulous and lays down silky smooth. The only reason I'm not using it next week is because the lady has cancer and I'm scared of using an oil with her in the house.
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are you sure? i have used it hundred of times and never had an issue...
yes, i'm quite sure i can sling a brush....better than any GC i know anyway.

fact is, i don't like to brush/roll ProClassic Latex because i've had many bad experiences with it:

-sags and curtains when brushed
-needs to dry far longer that the can recommends (verified by my SW rep)
-2nd coat reactivates initial coat unless totally dried (usually overnight)

if i ever have to use the ProClassic Latex again, i will cut it with Floetrol and see if that does the trick. because I do like the finish.

maybe it's just my situations, but time is essential and not a luxury.

i prefer products i can use right out of the can (maybe a splash of water) so i dont have to mess with it or worry about it as I move on down the line.

once again, my only issue is with the Latex, not the alkyd.
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yes, i'm quite sure i can sling a brush....better than any GC i know anyway.

fact is, i don't like to brush/roll ProClassic Latex because i've had many bad experiences with it:

-sags and curtains when brushed
-needs to dry far longer that the can recommends (verified by my SW rep)
-2nd coat reactivates initial coat unless totally dried (usually overnight)

if i ever have to use the ProClassic Latex again, i will cut it with Floetrol and see if that does the trick. because I do like the finish.

maybe it's just my situations, but time is essential and not a luxury.

i prefer products i can use right out of the can (maybe a splash of water) so i dont have to mess with it or worry about it as I move on down the line.

once again, my only issue is with the Latex, not the alkyd.
ever use mauralo ultra? that and the SW PC seem to have similar characteristics. i think it's a little thin to begin with, i wouldn't cut it down.

i had a few instances where i had to rag it off when it started to sag, my use of it has to be in thinner coats then conventional latex.

i really like the product though
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Does anyone else think that the ProClassic latex smells weird?
I can relate to having a need for a low odor product, I have been looking for an alternative to ProClassic latex for those few contracts I get in a year.
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all I really have in my area is PPG, SW's, and Epco (they basically push Benny Moore).

I have never used Muralo. I'm sure that there are a lot of great products that I have never used.

if a guy can make Pro Classic Latex work well for him without issue, more power to him. Even though the finish is great, I just prefer a more user friendly product like the Pro Classic Alkyd or something else.


Wise,
Pro Classic Latex has a high ammonia content for whatever reason and that is the smell we get from it.

Duration is expensive, and perhaps smells bizarre too, but it is a fantastic trim paint. It is what I use in mu own house. User friendly, flows like a champ, lays out great, low VOC, and the most durable and washable latex produce I have ever used. I get it at $30/gal.
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Does anyone else think that the ProClassic latex smells weird?
I can relate to having a need for a low odor product, I have been looking for an alternative to ProClassic latex for those few contracts I get in a year.
the mauralo primer smells like yogert
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I really like threads like this, it's fun hearing other people's experience and pref's.
I use SW a lot, but have only used the Cashmere once. I'll have to give it a try. I also never use Duration Home for trim, so am now curious about that. We typically use SW ProClassic WB for trim, and agree that it sprays great out of the can, but can get those nasty little sags in the inner sections of vertical trim. I find that keeping the heat up helps the paint set up faster, and minimizes those.
I love the ox hair brush and oil, but am just tired of breathing the fumes after 17 years....too many headaches and dead brain cells. Ok, should have worn the respirator more often!
Wish we had Muralo is Seattle, haven't seen it, but have heard great things. The BM Aura works well too, though can setup quickly.
I think I'll also have to give the BM Satin Impervo WB another try too, ProWallGuy keeps pushing it with all those fancy videos! I had the similar issue of sags in trim corners with it, not sure why.
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+1 for oil based SW pro classic. I use it when a house has a small section of white trim (I am a GC).
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I find that ProClassic works really well on interior metal doors when you roll it on, but it is hard to work with when you brush it on. I love what the final product looks like though. I use BM Regal whenever the client requests it. I like it, but at $58 a gallon it doesn' tmake sense to use it on all jobs. SW Duration Semi Gloss is a very nice trim paint. Another paint that is very nice is Fine Paints of Europe oil or latex. It is probably the nicest paint I have ever used, but it too is extremely expensive. If you guys ever have to do some real high end work I would recomend looking into it.
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I like the SW interior Superpaint for trim.
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Hey buddy reside in mass work with alot of trim paint the pro classic is really really nice would only use it if you were to impress. Use Sherwin williams Super paint is affordable and not as expensive as the classic i htink it goes for 27. It almost covers in one coat but two is always recomended. Believe me super paint is the best to use and saves you money,
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