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Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
the door suppliers have showrooms with fiberglass door slabs that have been gel stained ,no glass inserts or primmed wood jamb /casing which a typical prehung has when its gets to the job, prep the door after install and the painter is stuck with trying to make it all look like an expensive oak or mahogany stained unit (door/frame/sidelights).Really having trouble taking these doors and the prior mentioned variables and meeting the expectations of the showroom doors,which I think are factory finished, but not according to the supp-liar ! Not luvvin this part of painting anybody got any pointers
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
We do these doors all the time. The only thing that works good for these doors are a stain kit that they should have at the supplier. They are a kit called, Therma-Tru Finishing System. They come complete with a enough stain to do both sides of the door and the sidelights, top coat sealer, mineral spirits in a 4oz bottle, a cheap 3" china bristle brush, a couple of rags, stir sticks, ect ect. We get them for 40 bucks at the door store. Hope this helps, regular gel stain will make the door look like crap. This stuff actually make a nice looking fiberglass door.
www.thermatru.com Edit: we often paint the side lights white and paint the jamb white as well. Yet there is just enough material to do what you need.
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
I have had good luck with old masters gel stain, not sure which brand your using. What seems to be the problem?
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
Therma tru is usually what I use , but needed to match the int trim pak this time used a couple of minwax gels to get desired color . Some of the french style doors with full lites do not change grain above and below the lite which makes it tuff to work the stain as even as the sides, throw in the white lite frame and I usually have a cloudy mess on top and below the light.Have had success with jamb and casings by painting them first with a primmer matching the unstained fiberglass. Wish I knew a spray and wipe and spray again technique ,any sense, or am Ijust a wacko short on patience?
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help SoonQuote:
That's what I use as well. I love it. I was surprised at how easy it was when I did my first fiberglass door a few years back.
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
What do you use on Metal doors that have to be grained? Old Masters also??
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
Old masters rocks... long as you let the gel sit a few minutes, but not TOO long... nothing better.
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
Well i ran into some Old Masters at ICI the other day, i picked up some early american and plan on trying it on the next fiberglass door i have to do. Should be a couple weeks before i get in for touch up. I will let you all know how it works out.
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ICI is carrying old masters now? I haven't been in a ICI in yrs.
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help SoonQuote:
I have only done a few metal doors and it was years before I had heard of Old Masters. Old Masters has a system for doing metal doors, I think I saw it on a flier once. Next time I get a metal door I will try it out. What are you using?
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
I use old master, I will paint the metal door with a base coat then use old masters gel and a grainer and that's it. It takes practice and patience.
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help SoonQuote:
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We only stain the fiberglass front doors.
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
I have done a few fiber glass ones as I don't care for the graining it takes time to get it right. If I get my money out of it then its not bad.
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Re: Gel Staining Fiberglass Doors Send Help Soon
Yeah i don't much care for their graining either. I might look into try that on a metal door, one of my own i think. It really does look good. I have seen way worse on some of those therma doors.
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