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Old 11-16-2007, 11:01 PM   #21
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The time isn't in the painting, it's in the prep, so you can't get a realistic price from someone who hasn't seen it. If there were no prep, nothing to move, no fixtures or covers to remove and replace, just go paint, it could be done in a day.
The time is in the painting too, i.e. in cutting straight lines at ceilings, around door & window frames ect. I haven't seen anyone who's moving swiftly at cutting in --most are like performing a slow-motion tai-chi or something

.. could be done one day? Maybe you know some paint application method which I wish to know.. I'm all ears..

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Old 11-17-2007, 12:23 AM   #22
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Doesn't sound out of line to me.

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Old 11-17-2007, 08:47 AM   #23
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Depending on the wall repairs I could paint that out in 3 days, as for the price I would have come in around $1,575.00 with two coats and I still would make $300 a day. But if there is a lot of prep and repairs then I might come in at $2,100 it all depends. But without seeing it there's a ballpark pricing
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:37 PM   #24
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Please tell me what part of the country works for $1895 for all that work.......
I dont ever want to move there

Come on man.............cash, check or gold thats nuts......what Ive always hated about painters.........Charge your worth and run a business not
a hobby.

OK I feel better now.......
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:16 PM   #25
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Materials included? What flavor of SW paint are they using?
SW Pro 200, material included in the price.

I asked about spending the little bit more for their Cashmere line (paying out of my pocket for the difference) and he said it was up to me but felt I would be wasting my money.

Thank you all for your input. I gave them the job and they are starting the repair work Friday.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:37 PM   #26
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PM 200 is a professional choice.

It's an excellent paint and sw does give very good discounts to account holders for it. I've used it for years and I feel the same way as your painter.

Everything your painter has said so far does reflect 30 yrs. experience. The only thing I would do differently is use something other than pm 200 for trim.

I'd be scared to try the job at that price, but if he wants to do it, more power to him. It may be what has him working while other painters aren't.
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PM 200 is a professional choice.

It's an excellent paint and sw does give very good discounts to account holders for it. I've used it for years and I feel the same way as your painter.

Everything your painter has said so far does reflect 30 yrs. experience. The only thing I would do differently is use something other than pm 200 for trim.

I'd be scared to try the job at that price, but if he wants to do it, more power to him. It may be what has him working while other painters aren't.
He"s working for what??? Come on that price was way.to low. 30 yrs experience , thats what they all say.

I would rather not be working than to be working for that kind of money.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:45 PM   #28
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MY PRICE WOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND 2700.00 BECAUSE OF WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TO MAKE IT LOOK&FEEL GOOD!BUT ILL JUST STICK TO WHAT I HAVE FOR NOW.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:08 PM   #29
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Like everyone else cant say for sure without looking but sounds like a Labor only price to me....Maybe he likes you and you can help him out one day
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They have been here on and off (mostly on) since Sunday.

I hate when people nit-pick our jobs during the construction phase so I'm not saying anything to them until they tell me they are done. Maybe they will see some of it and fix it on their own.

I'm not particularily pleased with how the mouldings are looking so far. Some of the paint on the walls has a cracked look to it, looks like the mud from their patch work was not quite dry when they painted. It has left a texture of sorts that is inconsistent with the rest of the wall.

Granted, I'm probably the only one who will ever stand 12" from my mouldings ... maybe I was too hard on myself when I painted the downstairs, for the most it doesn't look this way and I only expected as good or better from a professional.

I'm going to post some pictures and you tell me, am I being too picky? Keep in mind some of this stuff will not show up very well in a photo, but I think you'll get the idea.

This door was new, they painted over the glue used to hold the moulding on the door:


They appear to have sprayed the mouldings, acceptable?


This room was black and orange, in some places I can still see the orange:


The other pictures I took do not show the problem as well as seeing it in person.

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Old 11-30-2007, 05:28 PM   #31
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Looks like the moldings were rolled, that is way to coarse of a texture for spray. As far as complete coverage, the little details like the glue on the door the small nicks in the trim, you get what you pay for. Your price was not for a top quality job, plain and simple. I hate to say we told you so, but we told you so.

For incomplete coverage of color, they probably priced it for 2 coats and the third would be an additional fee.
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Your price was not for a top quality job, plain and simple. I hate to say we told you so, but we told you so.
The only price checking I did was in here. These guys were the only ones who would return my phone call and I called three paint contractors.

They assured me it would look "like new" when they left. Not sure how to make this right without being a dick ... I don't mind paying more for material if they didn't have it figured but it seems obvious so far that they didn't take the time to patch, fill and prep so that it would look "like new" as they said.

I guess I did get what I paid for, but I'm not fixing it and I don't mind paying more to make it look better if its not too late.
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Casey they should have cut the glue off the door, as for the case moulding it should have been brushed, but if you let them spray well then you paid for a Blow and Go job, I would make them fix it, just because they said it would look like new, But then again isn't that how new houses look.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:59 AM   #34
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just had to put my .02 in here, prior to the pics i would have said for 30 yrs exp pay him cash cus its a good price, but after the pics yes its a blow and go, the glue on door takes 5 min to scrape out at the least, so thats just slacking,,, the textureon trim? well everyone knows trim is saposed to be smooth, walls and ceiling get textured, if your seeing old color when its all done he either put the coats of paint on too soon (without letting each one cure) or not enough coats. even at the price id call him back, its a good price but it has to atleast show well and it sound like it dont,
if nothing else hold a bit of pay, give him a few days break from the job to clear his head and have him back to finish up, your a GC right? you know the game,
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