Door Spraying

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-22-2008, 09:33 AM   #1
profesional handyman
 
winn's Avatar
 
Trade: professional handyman services
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: west columbia SC
Posts: 48
Send a message via AIM to winn
Lightbulb

Door Spraying


searching for ideas on a spray easel/turntable for my spray booth. we are getting a lot more cabinet re-do's due to the economy. a good b&f portfollio of old cabinets, especially old stained cabinets with new paint and new cabinet shop doors really makes an impression. just trying to fine a way to add production to my airless spraying. any help would be greatly appreciated.

winn is offline  
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 11-22-2008, 10:03 AM   #2
Sean
 
SLSTech's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cullman, AL
Posts: 4,511
Send a message via Skype™ to SLSTech

Re: Door Spraying


Try this http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=18907

If you insist of doing them on a table - try some of their painters triangles. I am sure Hartsville & a few of the other woodworking places carry the above items also, in case you don't like Rockler's
SLSTech is offline  
Old 11-22-2008, 11:00 AM   #3
Pro
 
Steve Richards's Avatar
 
Trade: hack painting
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,606

Re: Door Spraying


If I was going to spray lots of doors...if I could, I'd have them laying flat, just so I wouldn't have to worry about sags... but I'll assume you're a better sprayer than me!
Steve Richards is offline  
Old 11-22-2008, 12:48 PM   #4
He who's held accountable
 
Terrorron's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor-Renovations
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: St. Albert, Canada
Posts: 208
Lightbulb

Re: Door Spraying


I hang everything using 18 gauge staples (5/8" in solids, 1 1/4" in MDF) in the "unseen" end of the cabinet door; top of uppers/ bottom of lowers. You have to have a stapler without a "bump safety" and shoot from a distance to leave a portion of the staple exposed, practice on scraps ). Attach a rotating hook (with positive stops at 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees) to the ceiling of your booth, hang the doors from "hanging wires" (made from heavy gauge coat hangers) and shoot away...
You'll need to make a dedicated "drying area" with a custom built rack to allow for hanging numerous doors/end panels/fillers etc until dry. I make these from 3/4" plywood (lag bolted to the ceiling) with "teacup hooks" spaced @ 4" o/c. Large panels, (i.e. fridge gables) get a 16-20" long cleat screwed into the "unseen" end and are stood on empty "fiver's" in the booth...full height fillers/top rail get the same treatment but you can staple the cleats on, as opposed to screwing them. This method allows for full "wet coats" on larger objects without the attendant overspray problems (as long as you shoot from bottom to top, starting with the largest side to be finished, carry over the top (front edge of the gable) and finish the other side top to bottom)...
What products are you using? I've used these methods with very demanding high-solids post-catalyzed conversion varnishes (i.e M.L. Campbell "Resistant") and achieved very good results...

Please note...there is a significant "learning curve" when shooting large, smooth surfaces vertically with any high solids product.

Stain grade doors (done with a wiping stain) get stapled prior to staining; both sides and all edges can be done at once...Important: check for drips/runs from the joint between the center panel and rails/stiles after hanging them vertically; check all round for wiping marks...glaze wipes are the same, you can do the whole door at once...spray staining...ditto...
The "cleat method for large panels" (described above) can be problematic for spray staining, this due to "bounce back"/"haloing" issues. These are usually spray stained flat (for the fully exposed side) then cleated and finished...
...I ran a "very high end" (albeit small) custom finishing shop for years and these methods are tried and true...my 360 degree hooks were on an automated "track line" so all you had to do was stand in front of the booth face and spray; this minimized all the "handling" time. A track line is a significant investment however...the entire room (25x40) was the "booth" with a large make-up air unit/heater on the back wall and a 7'(h) x 10'(w) "filter wall" at the front.

All that said, I still hang everything I can when dealing with cabinet doors; the finished product and ability to "wet coat" all sides is well worth the minimal effort it takes...

...SLS; it looks like that product you linked to will only work with "euro" hinges? What about the "shadowing" behind the hanger? How many doors can you shoot before that hanger has so much paint on it that it's useless? Coat hangers are $1/dozen at the dollar store...

Cheers, Ron
Terrorron is offline  
Old 11-22-2008, 01:25 PM   #5
Pro
 
Steve Richards's Avatar
 
Trade: hack painting
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,606

Re: Door Spraying


Sounds like a smooth and efficient operation, Ron
Steve Richards is offline  
Old 11-24-2008, 12:12 AM   #6
profesional handyman
 
winn's Avatar
 
Trade: professional handyman services
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: west columbia SC
Posts: 48
Send a message via AIM to winn

Re: Door Spraying


anyonr have pitures of thier own designs
winn is offline  
Old 11-30-2008, 06:24 PM   #7
blackstonepainting.com
 
blackstone's Avatar
 
Trade: Painter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Whistler
Posts: 8

Re: Door Spraying


door triangles are great - you can do both sides + edges. just make sure to put so cardboard under to protect bottom edge.
blackstone is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Privacy Badge
I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
ContractorTalk.com is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At ContractorTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?