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Old 01-13-2018, 09:08 AM   #1
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Dogs Are Killing My Freshly Painted Doors, Customer Not Thrilled


I知 a bit out of my depth on this, I admit.

So I did some work for a pet resort/pet daycare type place that included repainting some metal doors. No one could be certain what product was on the doors already, but it appeared to myself and my painter to be something like a latex DTM. Admittedly, I知 not a paint expert but I tended to agree with him, and he is a good painter that I致e used many times and generally trust. They were scratched up and had some light rust. We sanded the rust spots, lightly sanded the rest of the door, and primed the rust spots. Then painted with latex DTM. I believe the primer was a red oxide type.

Anyway, the dogs apparently just abuse the hell out of this door. I知 talking big dogs jumping repeatedly on it dragging their claws down. There is a window in the top half of the door, and they are doing the worst damage on that metal trim, but also getting the face of the door.

I sanded it lightly and repainted yesterday afternoon and asked that they keep he dogs out of there until Monday to give it time to fully cure out. However I知 a little worried that it will happen again.

Same job also had 2 metal posts in a play area which get peed on often and the bottoms were rusting badly. We scraped, sanded, and cleaned them up, but impossible to get all the rust off without grinding it down and probably making it weak. Again used the red primer, then the latex DTM. I知 having a some rust spots pop through after only a few days. We did have a time constraint so the primer did not fully cure, and we did primer and top coat same day. Dogs were back in the room next day.

Does anyone have any tips or a better product that I could use on those sides of the door that take that abuse and on the posts? It痴 also notable that this room is a very humid environment due to the constant washing down of everything.


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Old 01-13-2018, 09:18 AM   #2
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Re: Dogs Are Killing My Freshly Painted Doors, Customer Not Thrilled


Not trying to be snarky, just curious.

Does direct to metal DTM paint need to be applied directly to Metal? Will lit bond to previously painted surfaces?

I painted my galvanized Topper ladder rack with it. It's not as tough as I had hoped.


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Not trying to be snarky, just curious.

Does direct to metal DTM paint need to be applied directly to Metal? Will lit bond to previously painted surfaces?

I painted my galvanized Topper ladder rack with it. It's not as tough as I had hoped.


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That question has occurred to me as well. I do not know, although I assumed that you could re-coat with good results.


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Should have used this primer on the doors;

https://www.paintdocs.com/docs/webPD...269000d1a738da

This on the posts;

https://www.por15.com/POR-15-Super-S...lack_p_11.html

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I'm not sure you can win this one. Get the doors powder coated? Maybe they need stainless or brass covers on the doors. A lot of paint won't really cure for weeks.
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Dog claws and whizz will destroy anything. Maybe rivet a plexiglass panel on the door after you paint it.

Maybe wrap the posts with Azek?

I hope you're not repainting for free. Not your fault the dogs are clawing the doors.

And yep, you need a rust stop coating on the posts first.

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It's almost like you need truck bed spray liner. Dogs are hard on pretty much every surface.
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Por15 is crazy hard.

I'd skin it in stainless.

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Humidity is not good paint won't cure properly. I probably wouldn't have painted any of it.
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Por15 is crazy hard.

I'd skin it in stainless.

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Oversized Stainless kick panel, like the ones in hospitals. Width of door up about 32"-36"
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Sounds like you need a sacrificial door in front of it. Kind of like those double-gated entries at some dog parks.
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I like the stainless skin idea on the door and would also go with POR on the post. Get the small starter kit with the cleaner and prep solution included.
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I like the stainless skin idea on the door and would also go with POR on the post. Get the small starter kit with the cleaner and prep solution included.


Do you have to order that stuff or can you pick it up at local retailers?


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Do you have to order that stuff or can you pick it up at local retailers?


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Go to the link I posted. Click on store locator. Advance Auto Parts and the SW Automotive Finish store near me stock it.

You can order it through the link also.

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The dogs will win every time against paint............
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"Dogs are killing my..."

I see that, and I immediately think its Davis posting about his girlfriends chickens getting et up again.


I've used 5 maybe 6 vets over the last 35-40 years. Never saw the "Dog Damaged Door" phenomenon.
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I used POR 15 inside my rusty motorcycle tank. Works great but I think overkill for that. I think an epoxy paint might be the best cost/effort way to go but it still won't solve the main problem, the dogs shouldn't be able to get to the door if they want the door to look decent. Why don't they have a chain link gated fence? It would be a better way to let dogs in and out too.
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If the client is leasing the premises, they may be less likely to invest in a better fix The POR15 fix should be a solid fix if given the time to dry. Maybe the client is willing to buy a second door and you can properly prepare/paint it, then after it's cured, install the door.

My first thought for the post was to wrap it and use a polyurethane sealant at the bottom to keep it from wicking into the concrete.
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If you can't wrap, there are epoxy marine coatings that will work, but I think you'll have to blast to use them.
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