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04-01-2007, 09:28 AM
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Does any one make a low pressure
Does any one make a low pressure sprayer?
I like the pressure when my sprayer is turned down but it makes the stupid lines. We do a lot of work in urban areas and can't spray because of cars driving by.
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04-01-2007, 09:42 AM
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Deck Cleaner
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You mean versus an airless? Check out an HVLP setup.
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04-01-2007, 12:56 PM
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painterofeverything
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if you are having problems with overspray ,an hvlp IS NOT GOING TO BE LESS OVERSPRAY ! one idea, use a bigger tip spray and backbrush ,if applicable...
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04-01-2007, 04:15 PM
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Iv'e never used one myself, but have you ever tried a roller attachment for your spray rig?
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04-01-2007, 07:31 PM
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painterofeverything
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Originally Posted by farrellpainting
Iv'e never used one myself, but have you ever tried a roller attachment for your spray rig?
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I have used them before,and can honestly say,that for the right surfaces power rollers are the bomb !
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04-01-2007, 07:54 PM
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Ya I have a low pressure sprayer, but it's older than you prolly.. heh, check campbell hausfields website... the one I have is 1500 psi but, in wind... overspray is still an issue.... I use it for oil.
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Paint does a lot more than put color on a surface. It protects surfaces, it can reduce maintenance costs, it can enhance lives.
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04-02-2007, 05:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by painterofeveryt
if you are having problems with overspray ,an hvlp IS NOT GOING TO BE LESS OVERSPRAY ! one idea, use a bigger tip spray and backbrush ,if applicable...
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What?
What do you think the HVLP is for? It will have less overspray are you kidding?
Backbrush......  haven't heard that terrible saying in a long time!
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04-02-2007, 07:00 PM
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painterofeverything
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Originally Posted by MarvinWilleyJr
What?
What do you think the HVLP is for? It will have less overspray are you kidding?
Backbrush......  haven't heard that terrible saying in a long time! 
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so you dont think that nice fine mist is going to blow for miles ?and why is backbrush a terrible term ? with oil stain would you leave it on the surface or brush it in ?
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04-02-2007, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by painterofeveryt
so you dont think that nice fine mist is going to blow for miles ?and why is backbrush a terrible term ? with oil stain would you leave it on the surface or brush it in ?
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The HVLP has a very low waste factor, that's the point of the low pressure. Thus making very little overspray.
As for backbrushing behind a sprayer.........that's what you have to do when you can't spray. After you learn to spray.......then you don't need to "backbrush" the runs you had, because you know how to spray.
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04-02-2007, 08:12 PM
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Doesn't anyone like to backbrush after spraying - 'cause it works the paint, stain or whatever better into the surface? I use the sprayer as a way to apply paint to the surface and reduce all that time you do dipping your brush into a bucket, loading, and then applying - and the brushing out. Spraying is great for applying - but doesn't substitute for brushing the paint out. These are wood surfaces people - not perfectly smooth primered sheetmetal!
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04-02-2007, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlainPainter
Doesn't anyone like to backbrush after spraying - 'cause it works the paint, stain or whatever better into the surface? I use the sprayer as a way to apply paint to the surface and reduce all that time you do dipping your brush into a bucket, loading, and then applying - and the brushing out. Spraying is great for applying - but doesn't substitute for brushing the paint out. These are wood surfaces people - not perfectly smooth primered sheetmetal!
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Nope i spray a primer on the wood, and then sand, then spray finish. The only time i would use a brush on my sprayed work is if there was a run or sag. Which does not happen in this weather. I like the sprayed look with out brush strokes. I also do not spray stain i use the older method for that.
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04-03-2007, 01:20 PM
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painterofeverything
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[quote=PlainPainter;220768]Doesn't anyone like to backbrush after spraying - 'cause it works the paint, stain or whatever better into the surface? I use the sprayer as a way to apply paint to the surface and reduce all that time you do dipping your brush into a bucket, loading, and then applying - and the brushing out. Spraying is great for applying - but doesn't substitute for brushing the paint out. These are wood surfaces people - not perfectly smooth primered sheetmetal!...Nice to see that someone understood what I meant ! for rough sawn exteriors,backbrushing is the only way to go !!!
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04-03-2007, 01:24 PM
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painterofeverything
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Originally Posted by MarvinWilleyJr
The HVLP has a very low waste factor, that's the point of the low pressure. Thus making very little overspray.
As for backbrushing behind a sprayer.........that's what you have to do when you can't spray. After you learn to spray.......then you don't need to "backbrush" the runs you had, because you know how to spray.
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Gee,marvin,I guess you would never spray and back brush an exterior log home.or some solid color stain on the exterior rough sawn lumber in florida...how nice that you choose to not work the paint into the woods surface and let it sit on the surface..quality work down there eh ?(bet you would'nt use an oil product outside either right ?
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04-03-2007, 02:14 PM
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And I thought the purpose of backbrushing/rolling was to make touchup easier. However, I have done very little spraying, none on walls or trim. So I really know next to nothing about it, only what I read and try to decipher.
Well, I did spray my abestos exterior here. I just used a Wagner that I have. I did not backroll though since this is my place anwayway, and I was kind of playing. One day I will finish the backside.
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04-03-2007, 02:36 PM
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Back brushing a rough surface makes sense. I do not usually spray exterior, unless i can do it before the roof goes on.
So i was speaking from an interior aspect.
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04-03-2007, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by painterofeveryt
Gee,marvin,I guess you would never spray and back brush an exterior log home.or some solid color stain on the exterior rough sawn lumber in florida...how nice that you choose to not work the paint into the woods surface and let it sit on the surface..quality work down there eh ?(bet you would'nt use an oil product outside either right ?
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Sorry guy but around here the guys I hear using the backbrushing term are the drunks.....I heard one say he was gonna spray the trim and he needed a back brusher. I said wtf?.....he wanted me to follow behind his expert spraying and catch the runs on the casings and doors.
Relax champ.
Last edited by MarvinWilleyJr; 04-03-2007 at 05:46 PM.
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04-03-2007, 06:00 PM
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was and am totally relaxed,type better that way !! over ...
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06-03-2008, 01:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HUDSONVALLEYEXT
Does any one make a low pressure sprayer?
I like the pressure when my sprayer is turned down but it makes the stupid lines. We do a lot of work in urban areas and can't spray because of cars driving by.
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