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Old 06-04-2006, 05:32 PM   #1
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Can You Help Identify This Finish?


Recently on an estimate (interior repaint) , and I was a little stumped by the finish on the walls. Looks to me like orange peel finish (VERY heavy stipple), and has the feel of Ralph Lauren suede paint (a little rough or sandy). The finish had to have been sprayed on.

Here's the thing--the homeowner took down a wall and as a result, there are parts that are peeling. In fact, if you scrape it it's coming off in droves. The pieces that come off feel rubbery. There is bare sheetrock underneath which is the culprit of the peeling I am sure. The trim and windows in the home have the same finish as the walls, but are in sound condition.

My business is 99% repaints here in NY---and have yet to see a finish like this. Perhaps in other regions it is more prevalent. Anyone familiar with it?

I told the homeowner that any paint that I put over these walls could not be guranteed.
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Old 06-04-2006, 10:08 PM   #2
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What's the sheen?
Any idea how long the stuff's been there?
How old's the house?

You're sure it's not rolled oil paint (with an appropriate sleeve)?

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Sounds like rhino lining. LOL
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Slick,

At first glance, when the walls simply looked as if they were heavily stippled. UGLY! The reason I think it is sprayed, although I guess I could be wrong, is that the wood trim and windows show no evidence of being brushed on, The finish is just too uniformly applied. (although nd I'm sure there are some painters out there who can work miracles with a brush ) And it is also uniformly applied up to the celing.


I would guess the paint job is no more than 10-15 years old. But the homeowner I am working for just bought the house, so he was unable to verify

I will take a pic of the sample I pulled off and post it later tonight.
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I've seen many tract houses that were sprayed and back rolled with a 3/4 or 1 inch hide. IF the sprayer applied too much paint to the surface the back roller can't even out the finish, hence heavy orange peel.
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Ok- here's a pic--although I could not get a real clear shot that would show the detail.

The color is gray, but if you look at it closely (probably not clear in this pic), it has blue in it. Strange.
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My two cents: scrape the hell out of it, sand it, give it a coat of oil Cover Stain ( Zinsser), skim coat it probably three coats , sand , paint it.

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I'm not a painter, but sounds like a type of commercial coating. One of the office buildings I work in has a "paint" applied very much like you describe to the drywall. In this case it's purple with a metalic shimmer, but otherwise is very even (to even to be rolled I think) and feels almost rubbery. Perhaps someone with more commercial coating knowledge has the answer.. Cheers!
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If its rubbery could it be an elastomeric?
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Zolotone?
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I'm not familiar with Zolotone--although I just looked it up on the net. I also brought it to my paint store, and the folks there were stuumped too. I am going to have to assume that it's some type of commercial coating used in this home. The home has a swimming pool and a tennis court in the back yard, so who knows why--I guess if money is no object...

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