Cainet painting question? - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

wizendwizard · 05-17-2009, 12:07 PM

Sorry for the misspelling in the title, I typed too fast.

Ok painters, we are doing some flooring for a customer and I have been listening to him argue with his paiinter for weeks over painting cabinets.

HO says to paint inside of base cabinets.

Painter says they never,ever paint inside base cabinets.

Painter is willing to paint inside cabinets but he did not figure it into original bid as it is not a standard.

HO is insisting the cabinets be painted as part of original agreement.

Can anyone inform me of what is standard or add on on this subject?

**Leo G** · 05-17-2009, 12:16 PM

What does his contract say. Does it say paint the cabinets? Or does it state that the exterior of the cabinets will be painted? If it says the cabinets, I can see how the client would assume the whole cabinet. How was it discussed when the job was being acquired? Was there a mention of the inside of the cabinet, at all? I would agree that the interiors of the cabinets are rarely painted. But if it was a built in style cabinet and was originally painted I would figure that the paint job would include the interior. If it is clear coated on the inside or has a vinyl faux grain interior then no. Basically it comes down to what is in his contract. That is all the judge is going to use as a reference.

wizendwizard · 05-17-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo G

What does his contract say. Does it say paint the cabinets? Or does it state that the exterior of the cabinets will be painted? If it says the cabinets, I can see how the client would assume the whole cabinet. How was it discussed when the job was being acquired? Was there a mention of the inside of the cabinet, at all? I would agree that the interiors of the cabinets are rarely painted. But if it was a built in style cabinet and was originally painted I would figure that the paint job would include the interior. If it is clear coated on the inside or has a vinyl faux grain interior then no. Basically it comes down to what is in his contract. That is all the judge is going to use as a reference.

I have no idea whats in the contract Leo, but thanks for the input. The arguement is on the basis of what is standard and what isn't. The HO has done some personal painting but the Painter is legit operation.

Actually I think the cabinets were unfinished on the inside and stained on the outside. Now they are sanding, priming and painting. The painter did sand prime and paint the interior of the upper units but is insisting the lower units do not get painted as standard practice.

The real probelm seems to be that the HO want's an add on for painting the bathroom vanities to match and they are built in and the inside can't easily be painted.

**Leo G** · 05-17-2009, 12:30 PM

I really don't think there is a "standard". I think it is what was agreed on and paid for. If the contract is iffy and not detailed enough the painter may have to suck it up.

wizendwizard · 05-17-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo G

If the contract is iffy and not detailed enough the painter may have to suck it up.

True that!

Mr. Mike · 05-17-2009, 04:39 PM

If the contract is iffy and the HO wants the inside painted.

1. I always write the exterior side only unless I am doing all of the interior as well.

2. If the exterior was painted before and the interior was not then he has an argument if he wants more money to do the interior, if he painted the exterior and it was raw he must paint the interior at no extra charge because he did not write the exterior side only.

3. I would rather my dishes and glasses smell like the wood in my cabinets instead of paint. That is what I tell Home owners when they ask for my opinion.