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Old 02-08-2018, 11:12 PM   #1
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I was just invited to bid a pretty large trim refinish job. While I am a novice wood finisher with a good eye for quality, I've never attempted a job of this scale. I have a pro friend or to to bounce ideas off of. I am not going to worry about trying to get the job. I'll either get educated enough to bid it profitably, or I wont do it at all so....

An upscale 80's oak trim job with golden oak stain and lacquer on everything. There's an 18' raised panel library built in, cabinets flanking the arched mantle, fluted corners along the fireplace, 8" base, 6" crown, and 44' of wrapped headers. 33 cabinet doors, stair/ riser edging, rosettes... The works- use your imagination.

They are not meticulous people, but know the hate Golden oak (as do I)
The are going for a Jacobean stain.
They have done 1 room, and I know I can do way better. We have talked extensively about dust control, masking, etc. They know this will be expensive.
My question is : I am looking for a stain product that will MINIMIZE sanding on the out of reach areas. And a product that will be super tough for the lower portions. I am also a bit unsure of what high gloss product to put over it- poly, lacquer, alkyd, etc.

I don't think we'll be able to spray much more than the doors, so alot will be brush work.

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I never take on these projects. Soooooo much detail. Sooooo much to go wrong.

Ideally you find a finish system that doesn't require you to go to bare wood. All of the fluting and coves and every thing else will drive you nuts. If it's not all sanded to precisely the same grit the stain will take unevenly. If the finish is not removed it will not take stain.

I'd do a test panel. Abrade with 180 or 220 grit. Paint one or two coats minwax polyshades. Finish with sprayed precat laquer.

Other dedicated cabinet guys might have a better semi solid color coat option.

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Without the ability to spray it all, run forest run.

If you can spray, you can tone to a color change with multiple light lifts, but with a brush, I wouldn't touch it.
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Without the ability to spray it all, run forest run.

If you can spray, you can tone to a color change with multiple light lifts, but with a brush, I wouldn't touch it.
I was thinking that as well. I'm just unsure of spraying in a finished house.


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You'll have to spray dye toners, probably a custom blend you create.

The grain will be muted with toners.

If they want the grain smoothed out you'll need to use Aqua Coat or Crystalayc clear fillers.

Scuffing/dulling is necessary.

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