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Old 02-14-2008, 08:52 PM   #1
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Bidding wage jobs

I'm currently looking at bidding a high school in my town that's to be renovated. One of the addendums mentions that this is a wage job and a skilled painter makes 32.82, semiskilled makes 28 and change and an unskilled painter makes around 18 bucks an hour.

Here's my question, do you have to pay these rates? How would they know if you didn't? Do they check on your payroll stubs? These crazy rates are ridiculous, the most laughable being the unskilled guy making almost 18 bucks an hour. When bidding these types of jobs, do you people just figure on charging like 60 bucks per man hour and shoot off of that figure? These wage jobs jack the price of labor up beyond comprehension IMO.

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Old 02-14-2008, 09:25 PM   #2
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Here's my question, do you have to pay these rates? How would they know if you didn't? Do they check on your payroll stubs?
Yes, yes, and yes.

Everyone bidding on this work will be paying these wages (or should be), so the playing field is level as far as bidding goes. There are games employers play to keep from paying this wage in its entirety, but only a few are truly legal. To bid rate work, you just substitute in the new rate in place of the old rate you have for your normal calculation. If a man's wage was 10 before you were charging 25, then if you will be paying him 18 for this work, your new rate will be 33. That's over simplified, since there are additional costs with a higher wage, like the employer's social security contribution, but you get the idea.
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in NJ you have to provide certified payrolls to the GC or Owner whoever your working for. guess that dont pay rate don't last long. i was on an airport job last summer and one of my guys went to school with the line stripping guys employee. they were bsing at lunch come to find out the stripper wasn't paying his guys rate, and the guys didn't know about rate. within a week the DOL was crawling all over his ass, went through all the jobs he didn't pay rate on, made him back pay, etc. last i heard about him awhile ago his fines were rounding past 100k and still climbing.. so messing around with the rates is not something recommended....
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