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Old 04-26-2009, 11:56 PM   #1
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Bidding commercial work

Bidding commericial work.

I've done a three commercial retail bids in the last year and am 1 for 3. Two were off of craigslist and one was a paint store referral. The one I got was off of craigslist, I was one of maybe a hundred. The paint store referral was vs. maybe two or three other guys. Started out well but it ended on a we'll call you note.

Tips tricks for the commercial retail client?

Do you price higher/lower vs. residential?

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Old 04-27-2009, 05:24 PM   #2
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industry standard is always higher for commercial work.

just throwing example numbers now: if I figure work at $45/hr for residential, i'll figure $50/hr commercial.

....or something like that
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I haven't really had a lot of luck on commercial bids recently. Since their are a lot of painters out of work, the GCs are demanding ridiculously low prices. I had a GC say he wouldn't pay more than $.50/sq ft. for a small job(3000sq ft.).

You may be set up to do commercial work and make money. My business structure does not allow me always be competitive in commercial work.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:52 AM   #4
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I haven't really had a lot of luck on commercial bids recently. Since their are a lot of painters out of work, the GCs are demanding ridiculously low prices. I had a GC say he wouldn't pay more than $.50/sq ft. for a small job(3000sq ft.).

Doesn't that ring up at $1,500?!?

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1. Tips tricks for the commercial retail client?

2. Do you price higher/lower vs. residential?
1. Tip, Measure everything. My trick is to insure them that I have a ton of employees working around the clock on every shift already. Then I find out what shift this work will need to be. I explain that I am the perfect fit for their project and show them pictures of to big to be true paint jobs we have completed in the past. The main goals with the commercial prospect is to ensure them you will not be in the way of their daily agendas and to insure them you have completed jobs like this or more difficult than this before in the past and also make them feel like you really want to earn their business.

2. I charge less if anything on commercial jobs per sq. ft. of paintable surfaces for many reasons. However the profit margin seems to be higher per worker because of production rates. My workers can apply about 3 to 6 times the paint on a commercial job than in someones house.


Disney stores would not fall in the above #2 equation. I charged $38,000.00 for a 2500 sq. ft. Disney store here in Louisville and not much of the place had paint on it, but everything that did was very difficult to paint.
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Doesn't that ring up at $1,500?!?


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ok, 3 bowing smilies was appropriate...4 of them and you are simply mocking me!


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