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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1Quote:
The more you paint you will realize how bad Behr is. The only decent paint in the Depot is Glidden & Zinsser primers. There was a post on another forum on how a red Behr paint & primer in one took 5 coats to equal the coverage of what another paint almost did in 1 coat. |
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New Guy
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
So your saying they lied
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
I have never put too much faith in consumer reports. I've seen too many products listed well that from my experiences and every one I know has had poor experiences with.
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Trade: Paint estimating
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Location: St. Paul, MN
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Trade: Paint estimating
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: St. Paul, MN
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
Well said... who the $#@! (in terms of any serious contractor) buys paint based on Consumer Reports opinion anyways?
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1Quote:
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So you think that means they are the same paint? You obviously have not tried Behr and BM paints |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Jamestown, IN
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1Quote:
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Trade: Paint/ Powerwashing
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Long island NY
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
I hate when people try to insist on Behr Paint becuase they think it's better and oh yea its cheaper. Really? If you break it down its peanuts compared to buying a premium brand like Benjamin moore or Sw. Gotta love marketing
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Trade: Painting
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
I am sorry to say that the main problem with Behr Paint these days all started when Masco Corporation bought this family owned firm in the late 90's.Behrs primary focus then was Quality ingredients for a superior product, now , they seem to be more concerned with how their paint cans look on the shelf rather than what is actually inside. I guess this is the end result of being driven more by marketing image than substance. As for me, its back to Dunn Edwards.
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Location: oakland, ca
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
used plenty of BM, contractor as well as aura lines as well as glidden and behr and kelly moore and others. i'd say that bm and kelly moore are definitely better, but $60/gallon for the aura line of BM paint because it's zero voc and supposedly covers in one coat is crazy.
never found a paint that covers in one coat. if it's my house i use glidden because, when properly applied to a good substrate it will last just fine and is a lot less. |
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Trade: Remodeling
Join Date: May 2008
Location: So Cal
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
One coat of anthing is never enough for a 1st class job. Behr is a marketing hype by HD. If you have to buy there, Glidden is very good. The Valspar ext. is OK, but does not cover in 1 coat, the interior newer "green"formulation is terrible. These zellots on this eco religion crap are ruining just about anything we use. Wasting resources using 2 times the product and extra labor has no consideration to them. It is also 116 oz. not 128 oz /can. This "clean air paint "runs and foams easily, poor coverage and takes a week to dry, still not really hard after 2 weeks, and took 1 can[116 oz] to do a 10'x10' room w. a large window and 1 wall a closet! .Barely covered in 2 coats, and you can not back roller or it will lift. Hate the properties. It was eggshell, but came out more like satin/semi g. The paint is very thin, a joke as the can says "thick formula". Hate to see the "green" thin formula. . I will never use it again. Nothing like the exterior paint formula or the older white label Am. tradition.
Oh yea, Behr is even worse, did a job where HO insisted on it , took 3 coats to cover walls. Never again on Behr too. Last edited by Andrew M.; 07-27-2010 at 06:51 PM. |
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Trade: painting, drywall, remodeling
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Iowa
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1Quote:
I have used Behr a few times. There was one time where the homeowners bought it off the bad tint rack and it was Ultra Premium. It laid down really well, but the other two times it was not good. If the homeowner insists I will deal with it because I hate to turn down the work. Those one coat, primer mixed in commercials piss me off and make me wish Behr ill I must say. I have used Pittsburgh once and was tremendously disappointed with it. The open time was about 4 seconds, it flashed horribly and covered like hell. Last edited by NaeGan; 07-27-2010 at 08:14 PM. Reason: Added to it. |
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House Painters Reading PA
Trade: House Painting, Roof Cleaning, Pressure Washing
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
I was at a Glidden Store and asked about why their paint was sold at HD and why it costs less. The answer the manager gave me was that HD wanted a professional paint sold there as a option. He also said the reason the same paint there is cheaper than at the actual store is because they actually add more water to the paints in order to sell it cheaper. Makes sense as HD is in this trade to make a buck.
Bottom line: Even if a box store carries a name brand paint, do not buy it there because it is the same product only in name...
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Trade: carpentry,general contracting
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rome ny
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
I think walmart paint is better than behr or valspar,and that's not saying much.
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Trade: Architectural/Historic Restoration and Preservatio
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Kingston, MA
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
This thread is funny! Behr? Wally paint? wow... I won't even bother with punctuation on this one.
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Small Business Owner
Trade: Residential Repaints
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Buffalo
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
you can get better paint for less money at a paint store, and speak with people who actually deal with professionals all day long and actually KNOW their product lines... when dealing with a paint store. Why anyone would go to Home Depot and talk to the 20 year old kid behind the counter about painting is beyond me.
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Trade: Remodeling
Join Date: May 2008
Location: So Cal
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Re: Behr Is No Longer #1
The first thing out of their mouths is Behr. The "kids" will never recommend Glidden. Kilz is now also owned by behr/HD. The Glidden there might have more water in it, the MSDS might be a way to tell. I usually add some with Floetrol anyway.
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