Behr Is No Longer #1

A W Smith

ive posted a link to this thread in my profile here
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/hom...hr-paints.html

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katesmith

I have always loved Behr. It is unfortunate

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angus242

Why is it unfortunate? Does that mean how it will work for you will be lessened now? So someone else's rating actually affects it's performance?

To me, no matter what anyone else has said about it, it has always sucked.

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jarvis design

I can not believe what I am reading!!! You all say that Behr paint sucks???

I use Behr ALL THE TIME - I always have 4 cans with me.

those four cans and a couple of pieces of 2x4 make a great place to put the trim I just painted (with BM or C2)

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Jeffrey Watson

Consumer reports performs actuality test when they test for coverage. Its side by side with other paint with the same rollers or brushes. One person on this forum says its so watery its runs and the next guy says it goes on like paste. Which is it? Consumer reports does not have sponsors or advertisers. Their test are performed to be objective. So when they say they took a roller and rolled Behr paint next to SW and the behr covered better. Why would they lie. Alltheir test are actuality test. They don"t listen to what others say to base their ratings.

angus242

But who determines what better coverage is? Someone who uses 100's of gallons per year or some lab coat geek who has used 5 gallons....ever?
If the majority of professional painters tell me SW is better than Behr, who do you think I'm gonna believe?

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Steve Richards

Agreed.

It's unfortunate that you don't know good paint from crap paint.

Maybe after you've painted a few more years/a few more thousand gallons, you'll figure it out.

Mike Finley

Do you remember the 60 million dollar lawsuit for them doctoring the test results of the suzuki samari?

A W Smith

Well consumer reports didn't approve my post critical of consumer reports. I'm shocked I tell you! Shocked!!

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Rcon

I have never, nor would I ever, use Behr paint. On anything. The doghouse deserves better.

Kilz solvent primer is great as far as i'm concerned - though I would be hesitant to pick up a Kilz paint.

chris n

[QUOTE=Rcon;811287]I have never, nor would I ever, use Behr paint. On anything. The doghouse deserves better.

Duckwarrior

Some of these posts are amusing taking into consideration that under the Masco umbrella Behr has been formulating kilz for sometime now. Kilz paint is basically a scaled down version of PP. etc. etc. More than a few of the chemists responsible for Behr as you see it today came from BM.

chris n

SAYYY WHAT???

DeanV

Until the last few years, BM was way behind the times in paint formulation. Maybe they sent their old chemists over to Behr which has allowed BM to innovate and pull ahead of everyone else.

Duckwarrior

lol. a long shot, but whatever.

chris n

All I can say is Behr AND Kilz both suck( the original oil Kilz was OK for what it did and for destroying brain cells. I am sure that is the cause of my attitude today and not all the recreational substances consumed in the 70's, the Kilz oil did all the damage for sure.( well,I will admit that over indulgence in Beefeater's and Jack Daniels might have done something to add)

world llc

oh boy... all thoes homes i painted with behr paint.... now they are going to fail

who ever saw this coming...

what a world, what a world

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world llc

and for anyone who wants to take my post literaly, let me clear the air by saying i made the mistake only once of using behr paint at the insistance of a client "cause consumer reports sais..." and it was a horable experiance...

been in therapy since...

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Builtmany

Three things come to mind: 1) Behr is the WORST paint I've ever used. 2) CS does is no expert on anything. The people teasing paint were running vacuums a week before and toasters just before the paint. They are also typically recent college graduates. 3) No real professional painters use Behr ever, even if a homeowner gave it to them.

BuildersII

Since I do a lot of repair and handyman work, I'm typically painting with whatever the homeowner has in their garage. Personally I think Behr is alright. I really don't mind it being thin as I usually count on two-coating any paint job. It's a two-coat paint, but I've yet to see a paint be a one-coat (unless you use a tinted primer, which is still two coats imo).

Now mind you, I'm no master painter. I can cut in very well, and I've probably painted over 300 hours of my life away in some form or another, but 9/10 times the homeowner wants to save money by painting themselves after we're done with the main remodel. Therfore I've never gotten to be too discerning about my brand choice.

I recently used SW "Pro Classic" trim and door paint, and I found myself chasing down runs. I didn't have these problems with the Cashmere however. Either way, it turns out I was using the wrong technique for that paint, and had to apply less paint and brush it out more. For this reason, I actually did not prefer SW to Behr because I still had to apply two coats, I was chasing down runs that formed 20 minutes after the paint had been applied and I had to work my paint out more.

I actually would love to hear a response from a painter on tips for these kinds of paint, and why that happens. I'm assuming because pro classic is supposed to remove brush marks by being self leveling, it has a slower drying time to allow it's high viscosity time to level itself out.