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02-05-2008, 07:50 PM
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Behr is no longer #1
But unfortunately, Consumer Reports has sunk (is it possible  ) even lower and picked a Walmart paint as their number one paint. I do not think I can ever trust that mag again.
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02-05-2008, 08:32 PM
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I can't wait to go into a million dollar home and tell the owner.....wait, I have to run to WALMaRT and get some paint!!!!......It's #1
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02-05-2008, 08:39 PM
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Behr has always been a big, stinky, #2 in my book
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I have never used this crap before and I pray to the paint gods that I never have to use it again, I would rather use Behr
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02-05-2008, 08:44 PM
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Behr has always been a big, stinky, #2 in my book
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#2 ?? Your giving it too much credit
Doesn't SW make walmart paint? they make most everyone elses.
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02-05-2008, 10:18 PM
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...jammin
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Wal*Mart paint, at least around these parts, is made by Kilz
They use different suppliers in different areas though...whoever is the cheapest and signs the ridiculous supplier agreement
Man, if you saw one of those things you'd wonder why any company would sign one
It's just W*M sells so much crap, it's too much for some to say no
Last I saw, nearly half the soap in the country is sold by W*M
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I have never used this crap before and I pray to the paint gods that I never have to use it again, I would rather use Behr
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02-05-2008, 10:43 PM
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ahhh, Kilz thats right I saw they came out with actual paint on top of there primers. Interesting, Kilz is made by masterchem which is a Masco companies which also makes Behr.. go figure, hammerite and others.
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02-05-2008, 11:23 PM
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That's what it was, Kilz brand. I could not remember the brand after they said "from Walamrt". The mind needed a minute to recover from the shock.
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02-07-2008, 04:52 PM
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The Paintman
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If a customer has Behr paint I refuse to use it!I dislike it that much.
Jerry
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02-12-2008, 01:44 PM
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Years back, Behr's soild latex-oil stain good. Durable.
Now they've thinned it to the consistency of milk, so thin it runs down your arm when brushing. Plan on extra coats. Have heard explanations of the cost of ingredients driving this, but to me, its become unusable.
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02-12-2008, 03:06 PM
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MI Contractor
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You guys are right Behr paint sucks! and im not a painter, just a woman who wanted "cozy cottage" in my office on the walls and ultra white on the ceiling..... I had to coat my ceiling 6 times! and i used primer first!
When i got fed up i went to SW's. Looks great now!
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02-12-2008, 07:38 PM
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New Guy
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I don't like their stain it has the consistency of water and leaves streaks. I stained my deck with it and made sure I did a board at a time to always keep the edge I was staining wet. Well I could see streaks everywhere and had to go over everything again. Not even half a season later it started wearing off the deck all over the place. The next year I restained it twice and the same thing happened. This stuff is sh*t, I went to HD and they said you didn't prepare the deck right. I waited a full year for my deck to dry out before I applied the stain, I gave it a light sanding and washed all the debris off, I didn't paint it on a windy or hot day. I don't know what else I was supposed to do. This is stain isn't it supposed to penetrate the wood not sit on top and wear off like a paint would? This summer I'm going to have to sand the remaining stain off and find a better product.
Seeing as their stain is so bad, I won't even touch their paint.
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02-15-2008, 07:33 AM
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Behr Paint
I Have Never Used Wal-mart Paint .i Have Used Some Behr But I Usally Use S/w Paint It Works The Best For Me
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02-16-2008, 09:14 AM
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The Kilz Paint is just another re-label of Behr's old 'One Coat' which was a bomb as well. There must be some high dollars flying around at the old Consumer Reports each year from Behr/Masco to keep their products in the limelight, because the rating certainly isn't attached to true quality in regard to application.
I've used the Behr exterior, and it cost me more in materials and cleanup as it was a drippy, poor hiding mess. I'll never use it again.
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02-17-2008, 06:51 PM
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Member
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I WOULDN'T PUT BERHS ON MY DOG HOUSE OR WALMART FOR THAT MATTER JUST LOW END LOW GRADE PRODUCT YUCK , MOST HIGH END PAINTERS USE HIGH END PRODUCT
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02-20-2008, 01:37 AM
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Walmart Paint is not rated#1
The paint product that is currently in the number 1 position in CR is (American Traditions) this product is made by VALSPAR and is sold through Lowes. They also have another product in 3rd place that is called the Signature Series that is also sold at Lowes. I believe benjamine Moore took the number 2 spot. Behr sucks in my opinion and I would rather use ICI or SW products. Both ICI and SW have been manufacturing paint for a very long time. I have also used Valspar and have been pleased with their products however there are not many Lowes stores in my area and they do not carry the volume I use.
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02-20-2008, 07:05 AM
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It doesn't matter who makes the paint. All the major makers make very good paints and very bad paints. It comes down to what is important to the buyer price or quality. Behr and wall mart look at price.
Jim
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02-22-2008, 12:03 AM
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learning the hard way
could not agree more on the Behr, when i was talking to the kid at HD about how it was like spreadin peanut butter he offered to sell me an additive that would make it easier to spread and maybe hit that never before seen "one coat " they all claim. of course the priceof the additive was the same as the gallon of paint GO FIGURE
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11-14-2009, 10:36 AM
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Behr Paint Is Crap.
I just bought Behr's supposed "Best Coverage Paint" and it sucks, does not cover, and goes on terrible.
I have to disagree that all paint companies make good paint, this is simply not true.
It appears Behr's plan is to sucker you in, and use their Home Depot market advantage to sell you twice the amount paint to do a simple job. While other name brand Premium Paints actually cover in one coat, and that's the way it should be. You should never have to paint, and paint, paint to cover anything; as with Behr.
I mistakingly second guessed myself, and choose Behr over other brand Glidden when purchasing, and allowed the stupid sales person to sell me Behr...after the true test Glidden Premium Paint covered in one coat and went on like butter, while Behr's top paint was a constant struggle and never covered anything in one coat not even light off white.
Last edited by PaintHead; 11-14-2009 at 10:38 AM.
Reason: mispell
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11-14-2009, 01:34 PM
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Chief Toilet Mover
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Bathroom Remodeling
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But unfortunately, Consumer Reports has sunk (is it possible  ) even lower and picked a Walmart paint as their number one paint. I do not think I can ever trust that mag again.
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That's awesome.
We always include a line in our contracts that says we will supply the paint to avoid a customer springing some crap paint on us.
A few months ago, the customer springs on us that, it's fine if you supply the paint, but we want to make sure it is Behr paint
20 minutes later of explaining we only use SW or BM and the customer tell me how Behr is the best we ended up not doing the painting part of the job.
They simply had to have Behr paint!
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