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04-09-2006, 09:20 PM
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banister job....need help
 hi all, fairly new to this business and have a big banister job(painting white over wood stained)...55 spindles(Square kind) in all...first off how long do you think this will take??? i'm thinking 24 hrs...but have nothing to compare it too...am i totally off??also what is a good covering primer/paint for a job like this.DO NOT WANT TO BE DOING 4 COATS OF PAINT/PRIMER!!! THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.
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04-09-2006, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lornmastro
 hi all, fairly new to this business and have a big banister job(painting white over wood stained)...55 spindles(Square kind) in all...first off how long do you think this will take???
i'm thinking 24 hrs...but have nothing to compare it too...am i totally off??
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I have no idea how long it will take you, but I usually charge $5 - $8 per coat per spindle.
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also what is a good covering primer/paint for a job like this.
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I scuff sand them, tack off, then coat with an oil primer. Paint would be a high quality latex semi gloss, or comparable. I like BM Waterborne satin Impervo.
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DO NOT WANT TO BE DOING 4 COATS OF PAINT/PRIMER!!! THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.
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Good luck with all that.  It takes us 1 coat of primer, 2 coats of finish everytime, maybe even another touch-up coat if you didn't get them good from every angle.
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04-10-2006, 04:06 AM
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On a job like this 80% of your time is prep work,masking off,sanding setting up the pump. set up and prime one day, second day: spray latex top coats, 2-3 coats as needed(latex you can do multiple coats in one day unlike oil), good luck.
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04-10-2006, 07:05 PM
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i was asking about the impervo at bm today they said the oil base was the best...hate oil base paint...said the waterbased wasn't quite as good as oil...but still great ...what do you think?
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04-10-2006, 07:44 PM
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Oil impervo is good stuff, but I don't use it anymore if I don't have too.
The waterborne impervo is good, has a slight learning curve to keep it from sagging.
My rates above were for brushwork, i don't spray anything like that, especially if the floor/handrail will be remaining stained and the house is occupied.
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04-10-2006, 07:54 PM
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I did a similar job about a year ago execept only 20 spindles. I got a call back last week because the paint is chipping off. I used Zinsser Cover-Stain to prime because it says and I quote from the website "Sticks to all surfaces without sanding." I beleive it even specifically said poly on the can but I don't remember.  Anyway, wishing I sanded.
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04-10-2006, 07:58 PM
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Chompie, I use one of those thin, foam backed sanding sponges, and send a guy up the line, sanding with one hand, and tacking off with the other. Could do 20 spindles like that in less than 15 minutes.
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04-10-2006, 09:54 PM
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thanks all for the responses...pro guy what is the secret to not have the paint sag???and will definitely sand first.
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04-10-2006, 10:15 PM
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Apply thin, and don't overbrush.
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04-10-2006, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ProWallGuy
Chompie, I use one of those thin, foam backed sanding sponges, and send a guy up the line, sanding with one hand, and tacking off with the other. Could do 20 spindles like that in less than 15 minutes.
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What I have also done in the past too, just thought I could save a step and reduce the mess a little. Dumb move I my part.
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04-12-2006, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ProWallGuy
Oil impervo is good stuff.... i don't spray anything like that, especially if the floor/handrail will be remaining stained and the house is occupied.
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