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Old 10-15-2008, 07:09 PM   #1
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i sprayed out a whole 2 story house with bin primer ,this is a insurance job for heavy smoke damage . i baged off and and sprayed walls and trim no back rolling. every thing came out great as always,except for 1 bathroom on first floor 3 days later i noticed bubble on the wall i was able to peal full size sheets off the wall(witch was my primer and the color behind it) and i notice that the cealing is now crarking
the wall is plaster dose any 1 have any experince with B-I-N PRIMER
maybe simler to this

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Old 10-15-2008, 07:17 PM   #2
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i sprayed out a whole 2 story house with bin primer ,this is a insurance job for heavy smoke damage . i baged off and and sprayed walls and trim no back rolling. every thing came out great as always,except for 1 bathroom on first floor 3 days later i noticed bubble on the wall i was able to peal full size sheets off the wall(witch was my primer and the color behind it) and i notice that the cealing is now crarking
the wall is plaster dose any 1 have any experince with B-I-N PRIMER
maybe simler to this

Is the BINZ laquer or shellac base???
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I have had nothing but good results with bin. I love it.
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b-i-n- is a shellac base snowman, and yes mike i to love bin have been useing it for fire damaged home for about 1 year now
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b-i-n- is a shellac base snowman, and yes mike i to love bin have been useing it for fire damaged home for about 1 year now
BINZ also makes latex and oil based primers .

Shellac base will pop any type of loose film or coating substrate.
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Kilz for insurance fire jobs.

Oil.

Never a problem.
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(witch was my primer and the color behind it)
It sounds like it was the paint layer failing and not your primer.
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It sounds like it was the paint layer failing and not your primer.
just as I posted earlier.
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Maybe the plaster was painted before the PH levels leveled out?

I always hit newer plaster with a vinegar/water mix for just that purpose.

This is an odd case because the post is tough to decipher in areas.


Good luck, at least it isn't a larger area that is failing...

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state farm insurance in my area requires we use bin pigmented shellac for smoke damage homes mainly heavy smoke i use cover stain oil in light smoke . not a big fan of kilz( in general but have not uaed their oil base that much either l
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thanks did not think of ph , how ever this was 30 pluss old plaster/surely painted with oil at some time most recent paint job was buy home owner , useing benny moore fresh start primer and bm paint i think simi
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i thought that might be the case this wall semed soud wile preping it
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hey snowman are you sure b-i-n make oil /latex from what i understand bin is a pigmented shellac primer / sealer(zinnsner brand ) and cover stain is zins oil and bulseye their latex
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The BIN peeled because when it cures it form a solid film thats kind of like plastic. Thats how it encapsulates the odor. Its wierd that it actually peeled, though. We use it a lot and have never had a problem.
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state farm insurance in my area requires we use bin pigmented shellac for smoke damage homes mainly heavy smoke i use cover stain oil in light smoke . not a big fan of kilz( in general but have not uaed their oil base that much either l
Water based versions of the original products are strictly (in my opinion) formulated to attract homeowners who are nervous about using oil based anything.
I do not advocate using anything that is "Homeowner" friendly, we need to utilize "Contractor" grade products.
It seems to me to be a marketing strategy to scoop up the burgeoning homeowner DIY market (thanks Home Depot and Lowes ).

Stick with oil Kilz, it has always been a very effective product that protects my reputation every time I have used it.
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Its wierd that it actually peeled, though. We use it a lot and have never had a problem.
I agree, that is a new one for me also.
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Water based versions of the original products are strictly (in my opinion) formulated to attract homeowners who are nervous about using oil based anything.
I do not advocate using anything that is "Homeowner" friendly, we need to utilize "Contractor" grade products.
It seems to me to be a marketing strategy to scoop up the burgeoning homeowner DIY market (thanks Home Depot and Lowes ).

Stick with oil Kilz, it has always been a very effective product that protects my reputation every time I have used it.
I LOVE! the DIY'ers. They never challenge myt price after they've made a mes.
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where do they get these old posts from anyhow , link from 2008 , I didn,t read it much but I am guessing they don,t wash walls in smoke damaged houses. Can you imagine spraying Bin primer, hope he turned off the furnace one faulty light switch and BOOM alittle light footed as well as light headed.
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