harness

i sprayed out a whole 2 story house with bin primer ,this is a insurance job for heavy smoke damage . i baged off and and sprayed walls and trim no back rolling. every thing came out great as always,except for 1 bathroom on first floor 3 days later i noticed bubble on the wall i was able to peal full size sheets off the wall(witch was my primer and the color behind it) and i notice that the cealing is now crarking
the wall is plaster dose any 1 have any experince with B-I-N PRIMER
maybe simler to this

Snow Man

Is the BINZ laquer or shellac base???

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I have had nothing but good results with bin. I love it.

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harness

b-i-n- is a shellac base snowman, and yes mike i to love bin have been useing it for fire damaged home for about 1 year now

Snow Man

BINZ also makes latex and oil based primers .

Shellac base will pop any type of loose film or coating substrate.

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WisePainter

Kilz for insurance fire jobs.

Oil.

Never a problem.

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Sir Mixalot

It sounds like it was the paint layer failing and not your primer.

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Snow Man

just as I posted earlier.

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WisePainter

Maybe the plaster was painted before the PH levels leveled out?

I always hit newer plaster with a vinegar/water mix for just that purpose.

This is an odd case because the post is tough to decipher in areas.


Good luck, at least it isn't a larger area that is failing...

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harness

state farm insurance in my area requires we use bin pigmented shellac for smoke damage homes mainly heavy smoke i use cover stain oil in light smoke . not a big fan of kilz( in general but have not uaed their oil base that much either l

harness

thanks did not think of ph , how ever this was 30 pluss old plaster/surely painted with oil at some time most recent paint job was buy home owner , useing benny moore fresh start primer and bm paint i think simi

harness

i thought that might be the case this wall semed soud wile preping it

harness

hey snowman are you sure b-i-n make oil /latex from what i understand bin is a pigmented shellac primer / sealer(zinnsner brand ) and cover stain is zins oil and bulseye their latex

Dmax Consulting

The BIN peeled because when it cures it form a solid film thats kind of like plastic. Thats how it encapsulates the odor. Its wierd that it actually peeled, though. We use it a lot and have never had a problem.

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Water based versions of the original products are strictly (in my opinion) formulated to attract homeowners who are nervous about using oil based anything.
I do not advocate using anything that is "Homeowner" friendly, we need to utilize "Contractor" grade products.
It seems to me to be a marketing strategy to scoop up the burgeoning homeowner DIY market (thanks Home Depot and Lowes ).

Stick with oil Kilz, it has always been a very effective product that protects my reputation every time I have used it.

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I agree, that is a new one for me also.

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