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Old 03-22-2009, 09:52 PM   #201
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I am really 21, I still live in my Momma's basement, I own a broken hammer and I have about 50 bucks in my wallet.

I still play with my wee wee sometimes

There I feel better already.

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Old 03-22-2009, 09:52 PM   #202
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Thanks Mike,
And thanks to everyone for participating, I am no sales guru and have no million dollars in the bank. Always learning and getting pumped up though, I swear after this thread was at 75 deep I could not wait to go on my next leed I am thinking they don't have a chance.
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Wow , go away for a day and look what I missed. Out of all of it here is the quote that stuck with me.

"You know, and this is just a suggestion; if you could team up with Jack Pauhl, you guys could set the world on fire."
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I am really 21, I still live in my Momma's basement, I own a broken hammer and I have about 50 bucks in my wallet.

I still play with my wee wee sometimes

There I feel better already.
Why only sometimes???
I rub the skin off mine.
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oooooookay then....mod please lock thread.
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oooooookay then....mod please lock thread.
Don't tap out.
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The thread is not off track, because when I am done I close my zipper 80% of the time. I am an 80% closer just like MrMike
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:11 PM   #208
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The thread is not off track, because when I am done I close my zipper 80% of the time. I am an 80% closer just like MrMike

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great I am going to hell for sure now that I laughed...
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You painters are starting to scare me.
I'm never telling a painter joke again, except maybe the one about the painter, the goat and the hockey mom from New Jersey.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:48 AM   #210
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except maybe the one about the painter, the goat and the hockey mom from New Jersey

I've heard that one, it's great. Of course you couldn't repeat it up here, you have to go down in the basement.
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Mike what I find a little strange is how you became a expert so fast. I have kept up with you for some time and enjoy your post. So I know roughly when you started posting about the first day closing. Is the learning curve extremly easy for this system? Because you seemed to have huge success with it right from the start.

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I commend you on how you handled all the chest beater (ego's) in here, not many would of held their cool like you did. really shows good traits on your part, and as for the chest beaters well, I guess their egos feel a little better and Bigger.
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D Mac,
Great question:

Let me kind of replay how I figured it out.

1. One day I was thinking about hiring a salesperson to sale for me, because I figured all they had to do was drop off bids like I did for the first 9 years, I never asked for an order on the first visit and did not expect them to either.

2. The first salesman I hired, who does participate on this thread he asked me so how does this work? I said we'll I drop the bid off and they will call in a week or two and tell me I have the job, he laughed. Being that he was a sales manager at a major window company and they did one call closes he found it funny that I don't one call close.

3. They did call back just like I said and he could not believe it. But never the less he put together a pitch book on his own and closed a couple on the first visit, before quitting here to go work somewhere else.

4. I hired a couple other sales people and hoped that they were one call closers, 1 guy worked here for a year but seemed to be giving away jobs.

5. When I let my last salesman go, I called my first salesman and asked him where I could go and learn how to sale? Told him it looks like I have to be the salesman now.

6. He told me about one person and I googled them and found they were doing a one day show a few hours from here in Chicago, that was on a Friday and believe it or not on Monday I closed my first professional one call close, It went so great that I closed 9 of my first 11 appointment's with this.

7. Here we are about 8 to 10 months later and I do think I am a killer at closing a painting estimate and wish everyone did this.

8. Seems the most important part of the whole show is the actual setting up the appointment.



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There is more than one thing I got from the Harry but my favorite is this quote he put up somewhere.

"Every man owes a part of his time and money to the business or industry in which he is engaged. No man has a moral right to withhold his support from an organization that is striving to improve conditions within his sphere:"
Theodore Roosevelt

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I am going to need some hard copy evidence of your method's proven success before I buy your pamphlet.
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Now if you had prefaced this entire thread with your last post, thing may have gone a little differently. Mike, while your and I sales/closing techniques may differ quite a bit, I do enjoy your enthusiam for the business. I think its the way you come off in your posts that may rub people the wrong way. I would bet if you tempered your sales expertise with a little humility, you could probably pick up some of the jobs you didnt close.

I'm a laid back guy Mike. I dont care if I spend 15 min or 2 hours with a potential client. I listen and build a rapport with them. Rapport equals trust where I live. Honesty equals trust. I want them to be comfortable with me. Last kitchen job I did, they had 2 small children, and it was the older (6yrs) birthday. I stopped and bought her a card and a few books and also for her little brother. My cost was under $20, what I get in return who knows, but the kids and the parents were touched by the gesture. They were a referral, who do you think they'll refer to their friends?

Take care, work smart, and I wish you success....and a modicum of humility.

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Mike what I find a little strange is how you became a expert so fast. I have kept up with you for some time and enjoy your post. So I know roughly when you started posting about the first day closing. Is the learning curve extremly easy for this system? Because you seemed to have huge success with it right from the start.

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I commend you on how you handled all the chest beater (ego's) in here, not many would of held their cool like you did. really shows good traits on your part, and as for the chest beaters well, I guess their egos feel a little better and Bigger.

He did a great job defending his lies.
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D Mac,
Great question:

Let me kind of replay how I figured it out.

1. One day I was thinking about hiring a salesperson to sale for me, because I figured all they had to do was drop off bids like I did for the first 9 years, I never asked for an order on the first visit and did not expect them to either.

2. The first salesman I hired, who does participate on this thread he asked me so how does this work? I said we'll I drop the bid off and they will call in a week or two and tell me I have the job, he laughed. Being that he was a sales manager at a major window company and they did one call closes he found it funny that I don't one call close.

3. They did call back just like I said and he could not believe it. But never the less he put together a pitch book on his own and closed a couple on the first visit, before quitting here to go work somewhere else.

4. I hired a couple other sales people and hoped that they were one call closers, 1 guy worked here for a year but seemed to be giving away jobs.

5. When I let my last salesman go, I called my first salesman and asked him where I could go and learn how to sale? Told him it looks like I have to be the salesman now.

6. He told me about one person and I googled them and found they were doing a one day show a few hours from here in Chicago, that was on a Friday and believe it or not on Monday I closed my first professional one call close, It went so great that I closed 9 of my first 11 appointment's with this.

7. Here we are about 8 to 10 months later and I do think I am a killer at closing a painting estimate and wish everyone did this.

8. Seems the most important part of the whole show is the actual setting up the appointment.



Edit to add:

There is more than one thing I got from the Harry but my favorite is this quote he put up somewhere.

"Every man owes a part of his time and money to the business or industry in which he is engaged. No man has a moral right to withhold his support from an organization that is striving to improve conditions within his sphere:"
Theodore Roosevelt

You need a salesman for 4 guys? You might be in more trouble than your pretend numbers implied.
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lol, just when I thought the thread died.
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lol, just when I thought the thread died.
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I commend you on how you handled all the chest beater (ego's) in here, not many would of held their cool like you did. really shows good traits on your part, and as for the chest beaters well, I guess their egos feel a little better and Bigger.
I think (by far) the biggest ego in here belongs to the OP.

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