Asbestos Shingle Siding Prep!! - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

Nail Ace · 05-15-2009, 12:21 AM

Hi everyone!! New here and will do a proper intro after work today.

I'm placing a bid on painting this house with this type of siding. Would like info. on preparing the surface for paint. Surface is chaulky with very little flaking. Thinking of pressure washing and allowing to dry for a couple of days. Maybe add a mild cleaner that wont harm the plants. Have done a lot of painting in the past but, never on this type of material. Any info. would truly appreciated!!

Thanks, Dennis

NAV · 05-15-2009, 07:15 AM

Do not use a power sander

RCPainting · 05-15-2009, 07:38 AM

Like Lead, there are issues you really need you be aware of. Not only health issues, but legal as well. Start here,
http://www.epa.gov/oppt/asbestos/index.html
http://www.airquality.utah.gov/HAPs/ASBESTOS/index.htm

MALCO.New.York · 05-15-2009, 07:42 AM

Can one Legally Paint Asbestos Shingles?????

Does not a Modification require Remediation and Abatement????

I do not know, but these are questions you NEED to answer.

WisePainter · 05-15-2009, 08:25 AM

I have painted plenty of them, get rid of the chalk and use a good top coat. They are plenty legal and fine (here) if you do not break them up into tiny bits releasing the dust.

ModernStyle · 05-15-2009, 12:18 PM

I have done it.
Pressure washing is fine, I would avoid sanding. Wear a mask if you do any scraping, then just prime and paint. I have this type of siding on my house, it is in perfect condition, as long as I dont let it get bad then it is safe. I actually have a bag of extra pieces in the basement, I wraped it in a trash bag just to be safe, I hope I never need to replace any of it.

Darwin · 05-15-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nail Ace

Hi everyone!! New here and will do a proper intro after work today.

I'm placing a bid on painting this house with this type of siding. Would like info. on preparing the surface for paint. Surface is chaulky with very little flaking. Thinking of pressure washing and allowing to dry for a couple of days. Maybe add a mild cleaner that wont harm the plants. Have done a lot of painting in the past but, never on this type of material. Any info. would truly appreciated!!

Thanks, Dennis

Good approach. Just no sanding any of the shingles. Also be very careful; the shingles are brittle and they chip very easily.

WisePainter · 05-15-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernStyle

I actually have a bag of extra pieces in the basement, I wraped it in a trash bag just to be safe.

Man those things are like gold due to the rarity of finding any that are in good shape, and they stopped making them (obviously)
I have needed them on a few jobs and there is no easy solution, I would have paid good money for like 2 of those d@mn things!

MALCO.New.York · 05-15-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WisePainter

Man those things are like gold due to the rarity of finding any that are in good shape, and they stopped making them (obviously)
I have needed them on a few jobs and there is no easy solution, I would have paid good money for like 2 of those d@mn things!

Two Words........ Atlanta .............Wait.....That is one word.

They are all over the place there!

A W Smith · 05-15-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WisePainter

Man those things are like gold due to the rarity of finding any that are in good shape, and they stopped making them (obviously)
I have needed them on a few jobs and there is no easy solution, I would have paid good money for like 2 of those d@mn things!

they still make them. No asbestos in em though.

http://www.gaf-weatherside.com/?gcli...FQNaFQodBg8KtA

**loneframer** · 05-15-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WisePainter

Man those things are like gold due to the rarity of finding any that are in good shape, and they stopped making them (obviously)
I have needed them on a few jobs and there is no easy solution, I would have paid good money for like 2 of those d@mn things!

I've seen hundreds of houses stripped of these before demolition, straight edge and wavy. It's fun to watch the guys in Tyvek suits smash that crap off with a hammer and then double bag it like they're being careful with it. I always watch from upwind.

A W Smith · 05-15-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by loneframer

I've seen hundreds of houses stripped of these before demolition, straight edge and wavy. It's fun to watch the guys in Tyvek suits smash that crap off with a hammer and then double bag it like they're being careful with it. I always watch from upwind.

there not supposed to smash them with a hammer. in fact they are supposed to remove them as intact as possible and not even drop them to the ground. I also saw a house slated for demolition where they cut through the plaster and lath to remove the asbestos wrap from the steam heat risers which were hidden in the wall. a house I couldn't believe was going to be demolished. the spec builder paid $500.000 for it.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie...2,91.1,,0,0.43

**loneframer** · 05-15-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by A W Smith

there not supposed to smash them with a hammer. in fact they are supposed to remove them as intact as possible and not even drop them to the ground.

That doesn't make it so, I've seen it done repeatedly, two story house stripped in 4 hours. Mostly non English speaking laborers working for a supposed reputable company. I've been leary to approach the site to talk to anyone.

Been several years since I've witnessed such an event.

A W Smith · 05-15-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by loneframer

That doesn't make it so, I've seen it done repeatedly, two story house stripped in 4 hours. Mostly non English speaking laborers working for a supposed reputable company. I've been leary to approach the site to talk to anyone.

Been several years since I've witnessed such an event.

wow, took em four hours to do a two car garage for me. they were careful. even wet it down before prying it off. Covered the ground with white poly which they double bagged as well with their used tyvek suits.. But what I couldn't believe was they rode home with it in the van on the first job. the second job they had a straight job truck.

boman47k · 05-15-2009, 05:50 PM

I doubt if having extra pieces would have helped me. I can't seem to get it off with it breaking on my old house. I am going to attempt to reside it with vinyl.

In fact, I think I do have a couple of pices from another house. The kind with the wavey bottom.

I did replqace one piece. Actully, it was not a complete piece. Anyway, I replaced it with a piec of luan primed several times on all 6 sides. I ran a glue trowel down the front whioe it was still has a frsh, heavy coat of primer to try and match the grain on the old slates. This was a few years ago and surprisingly, if you didn't know the piece of luan was there, you might not see it.

WisePainter · 05-15-2009, 06:36 PM

Aw heck I'm sure the d@mn things are everywhere...but when I need 'em, they aren't.

Nail Ace · 05-17-2009, 03:09 AM

Hey everyone! Sorry I didn't get back sooner but I've been turning out bids like crazy just to be told that the price sounds great but they just cant afford to have it done at this time. Things are slow here and the coffee shops are full of contractors with the same complaints. If things dont pick-up soon I'll probably try to sub some framing in Pittsburgh but thats about 60 miles for me one way! Thanks for all the advice. Dont do many large paint jobs. I like painting but my guys dont!!

I'm a 30 yr carpenter so you'll probably see me around there!!

Thanks again and have a great year!

Later, Dennis