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Old 12-08-2017, 10:31 PM   #1
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Hey, so I'm a newbie, green to the trade, and I always come up with questions.

I really don't want to create a ton of threads and bug everyone any time one comes up. This forum is for the pros and I realize it can get annoying when newbies come around asking questions.

What I'm looking for is a few professional painters that I can chat with on the PM regarding the questions that come up. If anyone feels up to passing some knowledge on here and there, let me know. It would be immensely appreciated.

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Old 12-08-2017, 10:47 PM   #2
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Just post your questions stupid or not someone will respond.

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Old 12-08-2017, 10:56 PM   #3
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The whole point of a forum is to share information. Taking it to PM's pretty well defeats that purpose.

Chances are, pretty much any noob question you might have has already been asked and answered here, multiple times. Granted, the search function isn't all that great, but give it a shot. If you come up with nothing, ask away.

We probably won't diss you too much as long as you're cool.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:21 PM   #5
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Haha right on thanks guys! I'll ask away.

How much money could I conceivably make in the trade? The average journeyman wage of the local union is 23/hr. Is this about ballpark?

I've considered getting a degree in construction management. If I got my foot in the door by being a painter first, what kinds of things could I do on the management side?

And perhaps getting way ahead of myself, what would be the pros and cons of going out on my own in the future?

Lastly, I've noticed on the few jobs that I have done thus far, I am painfully slow, and I've figured out why: Paint makes me a little nervous. I'm just not comfortable working with it yet. Too much expensive stuff around that could accidentally get painted, so I am slow and cautious. This is a little frustrating because I'm used to working high production, fast pace. This is obviously temporary, I'll get over it. Any tips on doing that, or is it just an experience thing? I'd like to get to my normal quick pace asap.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:24 PM   #6
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Not another slow painter thread


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Old 12-08-2017, 11:27 PM   #7
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:35 PM   #8
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I'm a fast worker, no doubt about it. I just gotta get over the paint phobia. I have this image in my head of accidentally kicking over a bucket of stain onto brand new carpet, stepping in it, and tracking it down the hallway
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:49 PM   #9
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Paint rooms in your house or apartment.
Again. And again.

IDK why, but when I do two coats, the second coat goes on quite a bit faster than the first. Should the first coat be just as fast?


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Old 12-08-2017, 11:55 PM   #10
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Hey he may be slow but he'll make up for it by going home early
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:59 PM   #11
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Paint rooms in your house or apartment.
Again. And again.

IDK why, but when I do two coats, the second coat goes on quite a bit faster than the first. Should the first coat be just as fast?


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A lot of times when we are the first people to repaint its over flat since that is what most builders around here use. These walls especially cut slower since they tend to suck up the paint, second coat goes on way faster.
On typical stuff you cut a razor tight line the first go around which takes longer and second coat you don't have to cut it so close so you can blow through it.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:03 AM   #12
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Thats the kind of forum title that will get you your own accuser
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Old 12-09-2017, 03:01 AM   #13
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Don't worry. If you ask a really stupid question, Caslon will let you know.

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Old 12-09-2017, 06:56 AM   #14
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I'm a fast worker, no doubt about it. I just gotta get over the paint phobia. I have this image in my head of accidentally kicking over a bucket of stain onto brand new carpet, stepping in it, and tracking it down the hallway
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Did you just arbitrarily pick a profession?
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All I can say is good prep work and situational awareness should be more then enough to get you working faster.

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Old 12-09-2017, 09:59 AM   #17
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For what it is worth I will offer up a few suggestions. We were all new to the trades at one time.
In no particular order:
Production painting and high end quality painting are two different things. Both can make you a profit and a living, but don't confuse the two.

Get yourself on a crew and learn the trade, learn the prep, the production painting, how to cut a tight straight line etc etc. there is no substitute for putting in the time and learning to graft in your craft.

Learn to take pride in your work.

The cream rises to the top, get good and then you will get to lead a crew.

Work hard and be fun to work with.

Get good then get fast.

Learn other skills, hang a bit of drywall, hang a bit of trim, skim over crap drywall, plaster repair (not same as drywall) you don't have to be able to install crown molding but know how to replace a bit of casing correctly.

All this will build you up to be someone who in due time will be a dependable, quality employee who can be counted on to get the job done.

Finally, regardless of trade, learn to take time off and recharge. My employees don't work past 5 o'clock or on weekends, yes there are exceptions here and there for weather or agreed upon schedule issues but not last minute this has to be done today nonsense. My employees get to recharge and give me 8 hours of quality work, 5 days a week.
Working 7 days a week is unsustainable, quality suffers and so does the employee and everyone else.

Enjoy what you have and what you earn, enjoy your trade, enjoy your family, have values, be honest. The money will come.

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Old 12-09-2017, 10:06 AM   #18
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I will add another, recognize poorly managed crews, poor work ethics, less than honest people, and bad bosses. Then get way from them.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:18 PM   #19
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Ohio Painter, that is some rock solid advice.
I don't post here on ContractorTalk very much, but I learn a lot from other pros on here as well as on Painttalk.com.

I will say that the paint business isn't as easy to break into as it appears. There's a tendency to think that buying $100 worth of brushes and rollers is all that it takes to get started. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I always tell new painters to contact the Small Business Administration or your state's business liaison office. The wealth of info to help you get started on the right foot is invaluable.

Finally, be content that you will never learn it all. I'm 40 years in, and still learn new stuff every day, things that make the job go faster and more efficiently. Speed will come with experience. You will eventually get over that fear of making a mess with spilling paint/stain/whatever.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:46 PM   #20
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Another one for free:


Avoid drinking a whole pot of coffee if you have to cut in walls first thing.


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