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Am I to expensive?
For some reason everytime I do a bid it turns into the customer looking like this and saying jesus christ or what the .
The paint is flaking real bad on this small 2 story house, scrape, prime, & paint about 2500sqft of siding. This doesnt include the eves wich is real bad. Im thinking $6000-$6500. Is this cheap or expensive? For some reason everyone thinks Im way way over priced.
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your market and clientle dictate that answer, if the majority of your market has that response, then yes you are to expensive. for my clients and market, that sound on the edge of acceptable pricing. should inc eves in that price. best guess without seeing the job.
You are only too expensive if you can't sell the job at that price. I would suggest that you start working on your salesmanship. If that doesn't work, you might have to lower your price.
At the very least, make sure your proposals are professional looking. A detailed scope of work....with good spelling and grammar, is a must.
Also, if you don't convey confidence that your price is a good value, they will pick up on it. You have to believe that it's the right price for the amount of work involved, and you have to be able to communicate that belief to the customer.
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You are only too expensive if you can't sell the job at that price. I would suggest that you start working on your salesmanship. If that doesn't work, you might have to lower your price.
At the very least, make sure your proposals are professional looking. A detailed scope of work....with good spelling and grammar, is a must.
Also, if you don't convey confidence that your price is a good value, they will pick up on it. You have to believe that it's the right price for the amount of work involved, and you have to be able to communicate that belief to the customer.
sia hit the nail on the head. If you are getting all the jobs you bid, you are too cheap. Stick to your price structure and cya.
sia hit the nail on the head. If you are getting all the jobs you bid, you are too cheap. Stick to your price structure and cya.
Dead on. People claim the price seems high regardless the bid, in my trade at least. Land every job and that means you're cheap, or you have no competition.
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That price does include the eves, this house needed paint 10 years ago, its going to take a while to scrape it so I figured high. The eves is like a bead board so that should be fun to scrape. Ill try to get a pic of the house up in here and see what you think.
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Dead on. People claim the price seems high regardless the bid, in my trade at least. Land every job and that means you're cheap, or you have no competition.
That price does include the eves, this house needed paint 10 years ago, its going to take a while to scrape it so I figured high. The eves is like a bead board so that should be fun to scrape. Ill try to get a pic of the house up in here and see what you think.
Maybe you could save time and money by getting someone to price blasting it instead of hand scraping? It's always worth looking into other options; even if it turns out higher, at least you know where you're at.
I've seen good results from blasting with walnut shells as a media on old soft wood.
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Here is some pics if they come up. I forgot to mention the $6000 was scrape, prime everything and paint house white and then paint about 2' of the foundation blue and scrape and paint the window trim and storm windows blue.
Theres a dormer up on the slate roof, that will be a pain in the .
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WOW!!! Yea that is a lot of work. Your looking at like 3-4 days in just prep work.. I wouldn't worry about your price. With that much work the price is fair..
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Originally Posted by wizendwizard
After seeing the house, I think you're very reasonable.
Alas, I know the and faces well recently. I feel this economy is truely what has people freaking about money.
Need + Economy + Gas + Food prices = and
$7600 for a garage bathroom addition. OMFG
Yep I know how that goes, I put a door knob into a old door for a old lady. This was the old style door with the inset hardware so I had to drill a hole for the new set. The knob was $40 and I told her she owed me $60 when I was finished, yep only $20 labor and I probably burned $15 in gas. I thought I killed her, she did this and just stood there stiff as a board. This was one of those family friend deals where the keep bothering you. After the $4000 roof quote I think she wont call for a while.
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those looks are them trying to sell you. remember in business someone is always selling, either your customer is selling you on the fact that they think the price is too high or you are selling the customer on your quality and value and prep etc..
There is an old boy that posts often in here. He is always yapping about how good vinyl siding is. I think I am starting to agree with him after seeing these pics. H/O would prolly be better off with it and could get it installed for around 3K. At least in my area anyway.
There is an old boy that posts often in here. He is always yapping about how good vinyl siding is. I think I am starting to agree with him after seeing these pics. H/O would prolly be better off with it and could get it installed for around 3K. At least in my area anyway.
Brock, I think you need to look closer at that house. A lot bigger than it appears. 3K would barely cover the trim in vinyl for it.
As for Kevin's comment about customer selling me on high price..... I could accept that from 2 or 3 customers but not EVERY customer. This is just the way the economy is turning.... Something for nothing, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme!
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