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I've looked at a few different code books for sale online and it seems there are a variety of them, as well as the "guides to the code" that you mention. Can you mention one or more titles/publishers that you recommend?
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NFPAs NEC handbook.
McGraw-Hills' NEC handbook.
American Electricians' handbook
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05-01-2009, 08:38 PM
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I've never had an inspector ask for more than 1 every 4 feet.
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05-01-2009, 09:40 PM
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I'm willing to bet this inspector isn't just an electrical inspector, but more likely a multi-trade inspector....... footings, framing, mechanical, plumbing, electrical, etc. Jack of all trades and master of none.
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we allways called these one horse towns
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05-01-2009, 09:42 PM
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we allways called these one horse towns
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Or BF,E.
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05-01-2009, 10:31 PM
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We are located in Frisco Texas, North Dallas area the home building in question is located in the Collin County area up in Celina. Sparky, You are correct in that the inspector is a multi trade, jack of all trades inspector admittedly by him not great in plumbing but his speciality is electrical. He was an electrical contractor in his earlier years. Any suggestions?
He stated electrical strips are okay in front of the counters above drawers and the sink areas long as they are gfi protected.
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05-02-2009, 07:04 AM
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Celina, home of the Bobcats, who always seem to win the State Football Championship. Perhaps this inspector has been beat too often in this town. lol
Ask him to provide you with a code reference.
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05-02-2009, 07:15 AM
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Also does anyone know what year of NEC Texas requires?
In Texas, cities and towns are allowed to decide which NEC code to enforce, as well as add their own criteria. Unincorporated areas in the counties have been using the 2008 NEC since Sept 1.
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05-02-2009, 07:26 AM
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We always place out outlets/switches no more than 48" apart. And from a break in the counter(ie. cooktop,sink, range) no more than 24" from the break.
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05-02-2009, 07:50 AM
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FWIW, the 24" rule for c-tops is simply a variation of the 6' rule for walls.
For walls, you start within 6' of a doorway, place a recep, then the next one has to be within 12'.
For c'tops, you start within 24" of the end of the top, sink, range, appliance garage, etc., place a recep, then the next one has to be within 48".
If the inspector can figure out wall spacing of receps, he's got the brains to figure out c'top spacings. It's a matter of substituting 2 feet for 6 feet.
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05-02-2009, 12:07 PM
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Or BF,E.
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05-02-2009, 04:31 PM
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bum f$%k, Egypt
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05-02-2009, 07:54 PM
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FWIW, the 24" rule for c-tops is simply a variation of the 6' rule for walls.
For walls, you start within 6' of a doorway, place a recep, then the next one has to be within 12'.
For c'tops, you start within 24" of the end of the top, sink, range, appliance garage, etc., place a recep, then the next one has to be within 48".
If the inspector can figure out wall spacing of receps, he's got the brains to figure out c'top spacings. It's a matter of substituting 2 feet for 6 feet.
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Bingo!
I had my mechanic years ago explain it to me like that and it set me straight for life.
This is by far the best way to remember this rule.
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05-02-2009, 11:36 PM
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Bingo!
I had my mechanic years ago explain it to me like that and it set me straight for life.
This is by far the best way to remember this rule.
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+1..I always just say,no point on the counter top (over 24" wide) can be more that 24" from an outlet.I watch this like a hawk.The last thing I want to do is tear up a new back splash to have an outlet added.
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05-03-2009, 12:53 AM
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+1..I always just say,no point on the counter top (over 24" wide) can be more that 24" from an outlet.I watch this like a hawk.The last thing I want to do is tear up a new back splash to have an outlet added.
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And don't forget any countertop space larger than 12" cus' you'll need one there too. 
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05-03-2009, 08:39 PM
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thanks i'am not up on internet abb. by the way 480 sparky you are from iowa
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05-03-2009, 08:50 PM
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.........by the way 480 sparky you are from iowa
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Thanks. I wasn't sure until now. 
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just saying 
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05-03-2009, 09:48 PM
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LOL.. I meant to say 12" and typed 24"..Too late to fix it now. 
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05-07-2009, 02:07 AM
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Page 18 of Code Check Electrical 5th Edition. I got NEC and Code Check. I keep NEC in the office, and code check in my vehicle. It makes a great checklist before inspections, and I require all my guys to use it.
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05-07-2009, 02:10 AM
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Page 18 of Code Check Electrical 5th Edition. I got NEC and Code Check. I keep NEC in the office, and code check in my vehicle. It makes a great checklist before inspections, and I require all my guys to use it.
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BTW....You can get it for 18.95b at Home Depot.
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