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Old 12-27-2016, 08:58 PM   #1
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Water Running Under Glass Shower Door


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I did a tub to shower conversion a couple months back and the customer wanted this type of sliding shower door. The door is 1" away from the stationary glass. The curb sill is slanted properly and verified by the glass company I use to install all my custom glass for me.

The problem is the water runs under the glass and onto the bathroom floor. The homeowner is a hefty woman and she says it's mainly when she showers that this happens. I contacted the glass company and this metal bar is all they can come up with. The homeowner is not happy about it and wants me to come up with a solution.

As one solution, they want me to cut a piece of marble to fit in the space to prevent the water from leaking out. I think it would be a mistake and a tripping hazard.

Has anyone ever experienced this or perhaps have a solution? She wants it to look aesthetically appealing.

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Old 12-27-2016, 10:56 PM   #2
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They should have put a sweep on the bottom of the glass door. That is the only way you will be able to stop it. Combined with the the metal curb, it works pretty well. It is clear with a silicone sweep. Depending on how your glass company does their doors, it should have come with one from the manufacturer. Hopefully the door is set high enough to add one. I leave them off when a customer isn't worried about the water, but still leave enough room.

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And no way would I ever set my glass without a channel on those side panels. I have seen it done, but I won't do them.

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VinylHanger, I don't like channels on my glass. It's just another place for water to seep into.

The glass travels in the metal track to keep it from swaying. I would have liked to have seen the sweep as well, but it wouldn't have worked in this case. It's a sliding door; not a pivot or swing.
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Ah. Never done a slider with no bottom track. Don't know if there is a solution in that case.

If it is an ADA roll-in shower, I have seen them with the track built into the curb/floor.

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Are you sure the water isn't bouncing off the fixed panels?? With that big of a gap there should be a 2" overlap for each fixed panel, especially with a panel/door/panel. Looks like CR Laurence hardware, call them for specs on required glass overlap.
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goneelkn, I spoke with my customer and she says the overlap is fine. They are also using a rain shower head, so it's directed straight down. Not angled from the wall.
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He's not asking your customers opinion on the overlap. He's telling you to check the manufacturers requirement for overlap of the panels.


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They should have put a sweep on the bottom of the glass door. That is the only way you will be able to stop it. Combined with the the metal curb, it works pretty well. It is clear with a silicone sweep. Depending on how your glass company does their doors, it should have come with one from the manufacturer. Hopefully the door is set high enough to add one. I leave them off when a customer isn't worried about the water, but still leave enough room.

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And no way would I ever set my glass without a channel on those side panels. I have seen it done, but I won't do them.
Sweeps don't work with sliders. I do agree that I never set panels without channel. Don't care what the client wants. That said I will set knee walls without channel. I don't like it, but I will do it.
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I didn't realize it was a slider. It looks like a slider with a fixed panel. First time I've seen that.

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i did a door similar to this one on our last shower, had really nice rolling wheels on a tube at the top. Came with a clear plastic sweep for the side of the door also which I dont see here. Maybe thats what your missing
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I found a picture its hard to see but there is a vertical piece of plastic running up the fixed panel and there was one on the door to. To stop water splashing through the side.
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That looks like the ticket.

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That looks like the ticket.

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Unfortunately, I don't think so.

Anderson - The sides are not the issue. It's the metal at the bottom that she wants switched out. She thinks it's ugly. The water runs down the door and then onto the floor. She says the metal makes a huge difference, but wants something "elegant." I'm going to send her this picture, though.
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Mike, it looks like the metal bar is similar to what is installed in Anderson’s post. Is that the manufacturer’s spec for the door?

What are the dimensions of the metal bar the glass guys installed and how is it installed?

I would think you could remove the metal bar and replace it with a tile/stone “pencil” liner.
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Have you actually seen the amount of water that comes out? I find it hard to believe unless there's a large gap at the bottom under normal circumstances that it would be an abnormal amount. Water would have to be pouring off of the door.
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You need some sort of horizontal diverter applied to the door at a point above the glides (so they don't obstruct). That would relieve some of the volume of water from forcing it's way under, even with the proper slope.

Maybe one of the silicone or vinyl self-stick ones would help, even though they might look odd.

Or maybe apply a silicone bumper strip to the threshold itself. It doesn't have to seal, and it's not perfect, but it would make it more difficult for some of the water to flow.

I don't think anybody actually steps onto the threshold itself, or do they?

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Mike, it looks like the metal bar is similar to what is installed in Anderson’s post. Is that the manufacturer’s spec for the door?

What are the dimensions of the metal bar the glass guys installed and how is it installed?

I would think you could remove the metal bar and replace it with a tile/stone “pencil” liner.
The metal bar was installed by the glass company after I contacted them with the problem. The H.O. says it make s a big difference, but doesn't look "elegant." I thought of replacing the metal bar with a clear bulb seal. But she doesn't like the idea.

The "pencil" tile idea is what the H.O. would like to see. She asked if I could buy another shower sill ($100) and cut a piece out of it to replace the metal bar. The sill is about 3/4" thick. I just feel it's an expensive modification. I also think it would be a tripping hazard.
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Have you actually seen the amount of water that comes out? I find it hard to believe unless there's a large gap at the bottom under normal circumstances that it would be an abnormal amount. Water would have to be pouring off of the door.
Apparently, the water runs down the glass and pools on the bathroom floor. I was surprised when I heard that because I put more of a slope on this one than I normally do.
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You need some sort of horizontal diverter applied to the door at a point above the glides (so they don't obstruct). That would relieve some of the volume of water from forcing it's way under, even with the proper slope.

Maybe one of the silicone or vinyl self-stick ones would help, even though they might look odd.

Or maybe apply a silicone bumper strip to the threshold itself. It doesn't have to seal, and it's not perfect, but it would make it more difficult for some of the water to flow.

I don't think anybody actually steps onto the threshold itself, or do they?
My thoughts exactly. Apply a sweep to the bottom of the door, just above the guide, so the water will deflect away and put down a clear bulb seal to replace the metal bar.

I'm sure some may step on the threshold. That's why I don't want to put anything solid on it.
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Maybe tell her if she wanted "elegent" she should have went with oil rubbed bronze.

Aren't there tiles about the same thickness as the metal diverter?

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