Shower Pan Confusion

orson

I didnt' realize WEDI had a full shower system, thought they were basicaly just doint the different thicknesses of backer.

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genecarp

yes they have a complete system, i will happily share my exp with wedi after i have completed my project. i do agree with splinter in that reno work is probably still better suited to mud job, for the mentioned reasons. with wedi , after i build the system ( floor and walls) i am completely water tight, their drain system is very creative, and nothing will ever happen to the panels. remember wedi is not new, its just new to us.

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orson

looking forward to hearing more about it, keep us posted!

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kevjob

we just finished a tub to shower conversion with permits and drain line up size and the foam pan once kerdi and tiled is bombproof, this was a condo on the third floor and the stairs were a mother and it was sure nice to set the pan in mortar and then do the walls, we also used ez board from customs and once kerdi and tiled very strong and waterproof.

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world llc

found this link searching ez board... havent seen it in a few years, but the kerdi board sure reminds me of it.

We are trying to push topical membranes from now on: either liquid like hydro ban or aqua defence (no more red guard) or fabric kerdi or nobleseal ts. there is a large market for a better built bathroom here in NJ and it won't suprise me to see more contractors using these methods in the near future.

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Bud Cline

You guys sure have done a turn around. In this very thread more than two years ago (Post#11) I said:

What has taken you so long to wise up?

Congratulations and WELCOME ABOARD!

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Splinter

I still do Kerdi... Im hardcore old school.

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MattCoops

Yeah, actually WEDI was in the TCNA handbook for recommended installation a few years before Schluter started getting popular.

Although I really like the Kerdi Drain, waterproofing with the Kerdi membrane doesn't appeal to me. Mainly because seams and changes in plane are "waterproofed" with Kerdi-Band strips and are installed using thinset. Thinset is pourous and no way waterproof.

I like the old way of liquid waterproofing, mainly because the product hardens to one continuous blockade of protection.

It would be cool to see a membrane that can be wrapped throughout the entire shower system that can be tiled over and has seems that are "welded" shut much like PVC roofing material.

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Bud Cline

Matt you haven't changed a bit in all these years - you still just don't get it.

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JohnFRWhipple

You can order in the Kerdi Coll. I believe it is waterproof. It is a two component thin set I believe similar to Mapei's Mapelastic 315. In Europe this is how you seem Kerdi sheets together. For showers I believe the European requirement is about a 20 mil membrane. Kerdi DS is this thickness and is also used for steam showers.

Here in North America Schluter only sells their 8 mil product. And your right about regular thin set not being waterproof.

JW

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dennis

That is so funny. I have PVC reinforced membrane roofing as my shower floor with slabs of slate on pedestals to walk on. (I'm a roofer) The water drains through the slate over the membrane and down the drain. But it is a pain to clean so now I am looking for ideas, and found this thread, to go over the pvc with solid material.

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Paintedlady101

To me the only thing to use that's a for sure thing would be a two part epoxy.