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Old 02-17-2013, 09:49 PM   #1
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I have installed a lot of shower doors. I usually try and stay away from DIY installs, but this was a referral from a plumber buddy who sends me a good deal of work.

My problem is I have to install Prima hinges into a DIY style fiberglass shower pan. There is no solid support to grab the screws. My supplier thinks it will work, but with 1/8 of an inch to screw into, I'm not sure. I've already made three trips to try and get tis installed. Not my or my customers fault, but it needs to work this time. If I had known how this pan was built I would have tried to sell them a nice heavy slider.

Anyway, my only options seem to be an insert of some kind, which I'm not sure will be strong enough in the long run. My other thought is fill the immediate area with epoxy and then run screws in while wet or let it set and then drill into the epoxy.

Any thoughts, or ideas on what epoxy would work? Like I said, I know it isn't a perfect situation, but I have to make it work.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:54 PM   #2
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The insert might be your only choice. Usually the curb on those bases are hollow and you would dump epoxy all day long before it would work.,Try a hollow wall anchor with epoxy. Mask the area and put some epoxy under the base of the Prima also.

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Why not remove wall material behind shower walls and install a piece of a tree to screw into..
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The prima is a pivot hinge that attaches to the header and the base. I couldn't use a wall hinge because of the tile work. Let's just say there was a bit of non flatness.
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Why not remove wall material behind shower walls and install a piece of a tree to screw into..
...could you do that to the floor below the curb from below?
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Finished basement. No way am I gonna tear into that.
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Pivot hinges dont handle much oblique torch. Usually just downward force. Drill a whole and fill that bad boy with whatever you have in your garage. Spray foam would likely be enough and you could even put your screws in lime you talked about. If you have enough coverage on this hinge maybe consider a toggle anchor which could be tightened a little after the foam dries.

I would get window and door though to make sure it doesn't pop the base off the floor..
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I am still confused how you got stuck cleaning up a mess at your expense. Id just throw the hack under the bus and propose fixes that included drywall work and painting.
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I am still confused how you got stuck cleaning up a mess at your expense. Id just throw the hack under the bus and propose fixes that included drywall work and painting.
I think he said DIY job...been there..had to adjust glass for that...
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These folks listened to the supply house. They measured and ordered the original door, not knowing to take all the various tile and floor changes into account. We reordered a new door that with my labor and materials was less than just the door they had. Add in some miss cut doors and you have a comedy of errors. I'm just doing my part to help my buddies customers out.

We've been at this since October for scheduling and other various reasons. I'm just along for the adventure now.
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These folks listened to the supply house. They measured and ordered the original door, not knowing to take all the various tile and floor changes into account. We reordered a new door that with my labor and materials was less than just the door they had. Add in some miss cut doors and you have a comedy of errors. I'm just doing my part to help my buddies customers out.

We've been at this since October for scheduling and other various reasons. I'm just along for the adventure now.
What ever you do while adventuring around that shower pan, try not to screw yourself, because anything from here on will be on you and HO can be funny when it comes to this...
I would hate to see you get into a situation, were you want to break a pointing at you finger.

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What ever you do while adventuring around that shower pan, try not to screw yourself, because anything from here on will be on you and HO can be funny when it comes to this...
I would hate to see you get into a situation, were you want to break a pointing at you finger.

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No doubt. I use lots of well placed silicone which usually does the trick. Next time I run into this situation it is a tall slider or nothing. With a slider, I can usually getaway with no screws in the bottom track.
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watch using inserts, we do hundreds of doors and repairs a year. inserts will cause spider cracking around the insert due to the pressure.

i think your in a bad spot with a prima hinge, only two screws in each . your threshold base hinge should be fine the upper i would worry about the sideway torque.

any pics of the shower?
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Drill hole in base.
Fill with foam.
Insert sleeve in hole, from floor to base.
Long screw from hinge through sleeve to floor.
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Glue the bracket and tape until set. Lightly sand the spot and use polyurethane glue or silicone caulk. I wouldn't drill a hole at all.
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Drill hole in base.
Fill with foam.
Insert sleeve in hole, from floor to base.
Long screw from hinge through sleeve to floor.
JMHO
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that is a great idea
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I am very familiar with Prima hinges (I just call them pivots) and I install tons of shower doors of all kinds.

If I were in this situation, I would simply explain to my buddy that I didnt want to get involved. I had a similar situation once that went sour on me, and the HO came to me for the fix.

I have installed grab bars into fiberglass using the Moen anchors, and even that is sketchy. I would not install 3/8 glass onto fiberglass without backing. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

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