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Old 06-29-2013, 08:00 PM   #1
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I am looking at a remodel of a bath to have handicap shower. I have never installed one and I am looking for advice and recommendations from you folks that have. This is for a private residence. Here is one I am considering (http://www.ada-handicapped-showers.com/).
I have our first meeting on Monday and just want some options. I'm thinking possibly tile or a unit.
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What is the budget?

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Well to be honest I didn't get that far with them. They live very close and I figure at our meeting I will go over that with them. I find that many people don't have any idea what kind of money they need for a given project. That's where I come in.
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I have installed several of the ADA shower units.

Never had a problem with one. One thing to remember is they come with all the grab bars & seat installed.

Make certain you get a shower curtain if you order one.
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I recently attended the Shluter Innovations workshop in Plattsburgh. They have some great products that allow you to build a no curb shower without dropping down the floor joists if the customer is looking for a tiled shower. Their linear drain system is fantastic, if not a bit pricy.
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I am looking at a remodel of a bath to have handicap shower. I have never installed one and I am looking for advice and recommendations from you folks that have. This is for a private residence. Here is one I am considering (http://www.ada-handicapped-showers.com/).
I have our first meeting on Monday and just want some options. I'm thinking possibly tile or a unit.
thank you,
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I installed a handicap shower unit about two weeks ago. I got it from barrier free, great company to work with, and fast shipping. Super simple to install.
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Tyler, how high is the curb in that unit?
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Just throwing a few things out there; you may want to consider waterproofing the entire floor, and I think I am going to start incorporating secondary drains in the bath floor which really opens up the design options.
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Tyler, how high is the curb in that unit?
It's wheelchair accessible unit the gray piece is a flexible t mold that come with it, its maybe 1 1/2" tall. The way we pointed the shower head keeps almost all the water in the shower.
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I recently attended the Shluter Innovations workshop in Plattsburgh. They have some great products that allow you to build a no curb shower without dropping down the floor joists
I'm all ears as there have been various methods out there for a while now. What secret majik do they have? Not busting your chops, but I'm constantly amazed at their marketing machine. So, looking to learn, I did a quick search and found this, in order:

1. Schuter.com website.
2. This: http://www.schluter.com/media/fhb_ar...ee_bath_us.pdf

Is this what you're talking about? Really?
FHB is fine for general stuff and finish carpentry, but, well, let's just say I gave up on them when I saw an article there where some woman was stuffing ice and water shield into a niche to waterproof it. Come to think of it, they also had an article about smearing thinset over lath, then setting over it as a low profile mud job.

3 and 4. Contractors (I'm sure they have a certificate to say they are official schluter intallers) installing schluter showers.

Then it went on to normal people on the net wanting "how to" information for their homes.

So what's the newfangled, secret gizmo?
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I installed a handicap shower unit about two weeks ago. I got it from barrier free

I'm sorry, but you are misinformed. That is NOT a barrier free shower, nor is it an ADA shower.
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I'm sorry, but you are misinformed. That is NOT a barrier free shower, nor is it an ADA shower.
Why is that?
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There is a barrier. Can you roll a golf ball from the bathroom floor to the shower drain? If yes, then it's barrier free. If no, then it's not. Look up ADA showers.

That's nothing but a plastic shower insert with a low curb.
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There is a barrier. Can you roll a golf ball from the bathroom floor to the shower drain? If yes, then it's barrier free. If no, then it's not. Look up ADA showers.

That's nothing but a plastic shower insert with a low curb.
I ordered it from barrier free, never said the shower was. But that does make sense, may not fall into the compliance of ADA it's what my customers wanted and what worked best for budget. But thank you for the clarification.
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No problem and you're welcome. I do have a tendency to get annoyed when manufacturers aren't precise in their language, just like I am with contractors that aren't when they sell their services.

So I'd just sell that as an old people shower w/o the grab bars.
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I have seen spec'd "curb less than 3/4" a few times around here in ada applications. Dont know if that's the code or not but surely couldn't roll a golf ball over that.
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thanks for the input. At least now I have some more info to work with.
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No problem and you're welcome. I do have a tendency to get annoyed when manufacturers aren't precise in their language, just like I am with contractors that aren't when they sell their services.

So I'd just sell that as an old people shower w/o the grab bars.
You are allowed up to 1/2" of an inch of curb and still meet ADA requirements.

That flexible damn doesn't matter is incredibly common in facilities that meet ADA.

Most of my companies work is at skilled nursing facilities, assisted living facilities, and memory care facilities, so I see it everyday.

They make retrofit pans that do not have to be recessed into the floor, hence the 1/2" curb.
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Just throwing a few things out there; you may want to consider waterproofing the entire floor, and I think I am going to start incorporating secondary drains in the bath floor which really opens up the design options.
I build a large handicap shower a couple of years back and added a floor drain outside of the shower----

User is wheelchair bound and needed a place to drip off the chair---

I like the idea and will be adding a room drain outside of any handicap shower,when possible.
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I'm all ears as there have been various methods out there for a while now. What secret majik do they have? Not busting your chops, but I'm constantly amazed at their marketing machine. So, looking to learn, I did a quick search and found this, in order:

1. Schuter.com website.
2. This: http://www.schluter.com/media/fhb_ar...ee_bath_us.pdf

Is this what you're talking about? Really?
FHB is fine for general stuff and finish carpentry, but, well, let's just say I gave up on them when I saw an article there where some woman was stuffing ice and water shield into a niche to waterproof it. Come to think of it, they also had an article about smearing thinset over lath, then setting over it as a low profile mud job.

3 and 4. Contractors (I'm sure they have a certificate to say they are official schluter intallers) installing schluter showers.

Then it went on to normal people on the net wanting "how to" information for their homes.

So what's the newfangled, secret gizmo?
You're joking right?

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