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Old 07-22-2017, 10:16 AM   #1
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My SIL texted me a few weeks back that her shower was leaking onto the kitchen ceiling. I was doing the other shower I posted about in Denver, finally got to look at it last night.

I'm thinking the shower water should not be "draining" between floor joist and drywall on the kitchen ceiling.

This may not seam to be a big deal------except she just had the master bath done by someone who saved her 8K over my estimated cost. She made a point of letting everyone know this at the last family gathering.

Surprise, surprise, he wont come back to look at it, let alone correct the problem.

I had seen pictures of the "build"----no waterproofing what so ever, tile installed directly over green board, 2x4 fabricated bench with no waterproofing, 2x4 curb with no waterproofing, appears to be one layer of 15# felt on the subfloor with nails into the plate, never water tested the pan (according to BIL & SIL), floor tile mortared directly to plywood sub floor. I knew the failure was a matter of when--not if.

Biggest surprise out of all of this---she contacted me to look at it.

My estimate is already over the 8K she saved.

Tom
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I hope you told her to eat your knob.
Nope--my wife is really hot---her sister not so much.

The joy of here "eating crow" was more than enough. My wife was very cordial with her about this also.

Only "I told you so's" and "hope you learned your lesson" were from the BIL.

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Nope--my wife is really hot---her sister not so much.

The joy of here "eating crow" was more than enough. My wife was very cordial with her about this also.

Only "I told you so's" and "hope you learned your lesson" were from the BIL.

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You still sort of wanna do the nananana dance in front of them though don't ya.......even just a little bit.
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I keep seeing friends on Facebook show off the tile shower in construction posts. No or little waterproofing.........i just want to screen stop!.......instead I say nothing. Not sure it would do anything.
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I'll let my proposal to tear out and repair tell her she full fist screwed herself.

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Maybe she will find it too expensive and find someone cheaper.
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Maybe she will find it too expensive and find someone cheaper.
My BIL will not allow this to happen. He's really pissed it happened the first time.

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I've torn out showers almost but not that bad and rebuilt. That's insane. It's hard for me to understand why someone would even think about attempting something they know nothing about. Sad thing is that those guys make about the same money turning a dishonest product.
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I've torn out showers almost but not that bad and rebuilt. That's insane. It's hard for me to understand why someone would even think about attempting something they know nothing about. Sad thing is that those guys make about the same money turning a dishonest product.


If they can stay busy (which I bet they can't), probably more money. Until they get sued.
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My SIL texted me a few weeks back that her shower was leaking onto the kitchen ceiling. I was doing the other shower I posted about in Denver, finally got to look at it last night.

I'm thinking the shower water should not be "draining" between floor joist and drywall on the kitchen ceiling.

This may not seam to be a big deal------except she just had the master bath done by someone who saved her 8K over my estimated cost. She made a point of letting everyone know this at the last family gathering.

Surprise, surprise, he wont come back to look at it, let alone correct the problem.

I had seen pictures of the "build"----no waterproofing what so ever, tile installed directly over green board, 2x4 fabricated bench with no waterproofing, 2x4 curb with no waterproofing, appears to be one layer of 15# felt on the subfloor with nails into the plate, never water tested the pan (according to BIL & SIL), floor tile mortared directly to plywood sub floor. I knew the failure was a matter of when--not if.

Biggest surprise out of all of this---she contacted me to look at it.

My estimate is already over the 8K she saved.

Tom

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My sister had an acquaintance of her husband's do their entire bathroom. He worked for cash hourly. The work is horrible and she knows it. But probably will never change her ways.

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Went over today because SIL insisted the leak was in the pipes. We all know it's not because water is not running out of the ceiling since they stoped using the shower in July.

I cut the drywall behind the mixing valve out. Wow, the pipes weren't leaking...

Did get a picture of how bad this really is.

By the way, I hadn't sent her the estimate when she had called about checking the pipes. Added $500.00 and sent it to her. We're over 10K now, just for the shower.

BIL, told me to get it done.

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So OSB is their substrate in the shower...?
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They have osb inside the shower??

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Could be some new high-tech top secret substrate we don't know about

I'm lovein' the pan liner.

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Went over today because SIL insisted the leak was in the pipes. We all know it's not because water is not running out of the ceiling since they stoped using the shower in July.

I cut the drywall behind the mixing valve out. Wow, the pipes weren't leaking...

Did get a picture of how bad this really is.

By the way, I hadn't sent her the estimate when she had called about checking the pipes. Added $500.00 and sent it to her. We're over 10K now, just for the shower.

BIL, told me to get it done.

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Got.any other pics?

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Oh my...that is a new kind of special right there...well at least you can mount grab bars anywhere.

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You're going to charge $10K or a little caulk and paint?

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