UGH! Schluter Jolly Metal Is 8 Ft. My Walls Are 8 Ft. 1 1/2 Inches

 
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Old 12-28-2017, 07:54 AM   #21
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Re: UGH! Schluter Jolly Metal Is 8 Ft. My Walls Are 8 Ft. 1 1/2 Inches


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well I put the metal up on the corner to see what I was faced with and its 1 1/2 inches short
Measure the length of the Jolly. If it's not 8'-2-1/2" long someone cut it.

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https://www.schluter.com/schluter-us...-JOLLY/p/JOLLY

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A little dinky piece looks crappy. I'd do a larger piece as someone else mentioned. And right at the grout line too. Personally I try and hide those things high and not low. Preference.


If it's for an HO, I always run those kinds of things by them and let them know what I'm doing, present some options and then have them give me the OK.

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For the advice.
The homeowner said do what you want. We don't care. Top/bottom whatever.
I found out the metal I had was not Schluter. It was Bengard. I have used both and for some reason I thought I had Schluter in my hand. Didn't even look. My apologies.
Worse thing is I didn't even know Schluter was longer lengths.
I get Bengard since it's more a convenient supplier to get to and thought they were the same.
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Anyone ever set the metal on the wall before starting to tile the wall. I do this a lot when i do shampoo niche's. Frame it and tape it to the wall.
I have, I'm not skilled enough to set it with the tile without making a mess.
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I have, I'm not skilled enough to set it with the tile without making a mess.
I wish I had known you could preset the edgings. I only just realized it on the last little reno I did. Previous times I did it with the tile and while acceptable, I wasn't happy with the result.

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I wish I had known you could preset the edgings. I only just realized it on the last little reno I did. Previous times I did it with the tile and while acceptable, I wasn't happy with the result.

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Serious question.

How else would you do it? Set all the tile real fast and then slide it in?
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Serious question.

How else would you do it? Set all the tile real fast and then slide it in?
Put a bit of thinset where it goes, apply the edging then tile on top of it. How they show in the installation videos lol.

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Put a bit of thinset where it goes, apply the edging then tile on top of it. How they show in the installation videos lol.

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I'm confused...

Say you're running a piece from a shower curb up to the ceiling. I spread a 2" - 3" wide strip of thinset all the way up, set the strip perfectly plumb, push it into the mortar, wipe off the excess, and then start at the bottom and tile up.

I would consider that presetting the strip and it sounds like that's how you're saying you would do it?

If there are more pieces than that, I set them all, but you get the idea.
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I'm confused...

Say you're running a piece from a shower curb up to the ceiling. I spread a 2" - 3" wide strip of thinset all the way up, set the strip perfectly plumb, push it into the mortar, wipe off the excess, and then start at the bottom and tile up.

I would consider that presetting the strip and it sounds like that's how you're saying you would do it?

If there are more pieces than that, I set them all, but you get the idea.
I guess I was doing it right after all then haha

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Serious question.

How else would you do it? Set all the tile real fast and then slide it in?
Hot Glue. Couple of dabs and done. The thing doesn't budge a mm from plumb.
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I thought most of the Schluter edging/profiles came only in 8’ lengths. The reason given is because they made a supply decision for shipping and 8’ is the max length for UPS packages.


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I think that they know that they are too long for UPS but nobody at UPS has caught on yet. I seem to remember hearing this when I took a class at the factory in Plattsburgh.
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Hot Glue. Couple of dabs and done. The thing doesn't budge a mm from plumb.
I've used the hot glue before but I typically just use thinset because it's what I have out when I'm tiling.
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I thought most of the Schluter edging/profiles came only in 8’ lengths. The reason given is because they made a supply decision for shipping and 8’ is the max length for UPS packages.


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Hot Glue. Couple of dabs and done. The thing doesn't budge a mm from plumb.
I have tried and had some success pre-mounting metals. But how do you come up with a depth that includes the tile plus thinset and say a return on that Rondo corner edged metal. I had 2 today that were corners but they returned into a tub surround with a small 2 inch tile cut the first 6 ft., then came into the wall tile above the surround. I did the 5 inch face first up 6 ft. then moved to the tub side and adjusted the metal as I went up. Then the other side of that face.
BUT the whole time I'm thinking hey TNT must have a concrete solution.
I'm just not seeing it.

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The other thing that pisses me off is my Manual tile cutter with new titanium wheel on it still giving me tail in/outs on 24's. My big clunker is going to be a big scrap of metal soon.
I switched to my wet saw and gave up on the manual. Yet I watch video and man do they make it look simple on the manuals. All be it either a Sigma or Montolit

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I have tried and had some success pre-mounting metals. But how do you come up with a depth that includes the tile plus thinset and say a return on that Rondo corner edged metal. I had 2 today that were corners but they returned into a tub surround with a small 2 inch tile cut the first 6 ft., then came into the wall tile above the surround. I did the 5 inch face first up 6 ft. then moved to the tub side and adjusted the metal as I went up. Then the other side of that face.
BUT the whole time I'm thinking hey TNT must have a concrete solution.
I'm just not seeing it.

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The other thing that pisses me off is my Manual tile cutter with new titanium wheel on it still giving me tail in/outs on 24's. My big clunker is going to be a big scrap of metal soon.
I switched to my wet saw and gave up on the manual. Yet I watch video and man do they make it look simple on the manuals. All be it either a Sigma or Montolit
There is a very big difference in snappers. The higher quality ones are worth very penny.

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My last little reno I had to patch in some plastic edging to match the existing so I glued it on with trimtex adhesive for vinyl beads. Worked well!

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