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Old 01-01-2018, 01:36 PM   #21
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can you tell me more about the Riamondi bucket Tom? Is it effective when using the single stage grouts (ie Flexcolor CQ)?
That is the grout I use.

I like the handle, separation of product in bucket, rollers to "wring" the sponge out.

You still have to change the water often with the CQ.

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Old 01-01-2018, 01:50 PM   #22
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I found some sponges from a local janitorial supply house. They are 2" thick and appox 4x7. They have sharp, square edges which I really like. I will get a brand for them. They work great for me on urethane.

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I hear these are good, I've never used them.

http://www.tools4flooring.com/ardex-...ut-sponge.html

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I use these exact ones.
They hold up well and the square edges are a plus.
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After looking at this vid, I'd have to admit that I don't shimmy the tile back and forth to collapse the ridges. I mostly tap with a mallet and haven't had any problems. How about you folks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Way5bMh-eYg
I found the video interesting and informative.
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Yes but the question is why are you looking at how to's on Youtube?
This video is not just a how to video. It was produced by the NTCA (National Tile Contractors Association). It's one of the best videos on the how and the why on setting tile.
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I looked at that system. Yea me I'd have half of them in my big rubbermaid container because I was in a hurry and said i'll get those in there later.

I was looking at the grout bucket system. Anyone use those on a reg. basis. Me. Its 2-5 gal. pails and 3 or 4 sponges. Then change water 2 or 3 times.

Better yet someone make a tool to remove those pesky tile leveller clips that randomly don't snap off underneath. Always seem to have 3 or 4. I notice the guru Sal even had a few on his videos but didn't show how he removed them
For one, keep your work clean, but when they do occur you just use a pair of needle nose. Keep the pliers away from the tile and wiggle like a loose tooth.
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I use these exact ones.
They hold up well and the square edges are a plus.
They don't play nice with Flexcolor or some urethanes. They are great for cementous products.
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This video is not just a how to video. It was produced by the NTCA (National Tile Contractors Association). It's one of the best videos on the how and the why on setting tile.
Didn't even watch the video but yes the only ones I run across that are worth watching are from manufacturers, etc.
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Better yet someone make a tool to remove those pesky tile leveller clips that randomly don't snap off underneath. Always seem to have 3 or 4. I notice the guru Sal even had a few on his videos but didn't show how he removed them
I find they don't break cleanly if there is to much mortar around the leg. I scrape the mortar away with a dental pick, push sideways on the leg and it pops off.

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I save the sponges that come in the Flexcolor bucket. I do wish they were a little larger. Other than that they're great for clean up.

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We haven't figured out how to get it dry...

The guys don't like to use it. What's the trick?
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I got it. Just messing. I do think it was useful for cement grout on floors, which we were still doing back when we got that bucket. Never could get it as dry as a normal sponge, but it didnít seem to be an issue. However now that we almost exclusively use urethane, we use microfiber sponges/rags.


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I got it. Just messing. I do think it was useful for cement grout on floors, which we were still doing back when we got that bucket. Never could get it as dry as a normal sponge, but it didnít seem to be an issue. However now that we almost exclusively use urethane, we use microfiber sponges/rags.


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I didn't watch the vid. When I lay tile I butt the tile up tight to the others and then gently push down and away to open up the grout space. This keeps the thin-set from smooshing up into my grout line and sets the tile. It makes for a real nice clean lay and I dont have to keep cleaning out the joints.
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OK, I went back and watched the vid..IMO too much of that shimmy-shimmy stuff is going to ooze thinset all over the place and make a big mess. Just a gentle slide against the grain is suffice... just like they showed using the piece of glass.

But as I mentioned I like to butt the tile tight against the others, lay it, then slide and push it to keep grout space clear.
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OK, I went back and watched the vid..IMO too much of that shimmy-shimmy stuff is going to ooze thinset all over the place and make a big mess. Just a gentle slide against the grain is suffice... just like they showed using the piece of glass.

But as I mentioned I like to butt the tile tight against the others, lay it, then slide and push it to keep grout space clear.
Gentle doesn't get the air out and to achieve 85% on non wet areas and 95% in wet areas you have to release the air. And it won't ooze thin set if you do it properly. That is what the proper trowel size does. It only allows the right amount of mortar to collapse the ridges and fill the voids.

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