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Old 12-31-2017, 11:22 AM   #1
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Trowel & Error


After looking at this vid, I'd have to admit that I don't shimmy the tile back and forth to collapse the ridges. I mostly tap with a mallet and haven't had any problems. How about you folks?

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Old 12-31-2017, 11:29 AM   #2
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As long as it's damn near impossible to pull it back up to check for coverage, and you do have full coverage, then you're good.

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Notice the u-notched trowel? Towards the end they were using a euro large format trowel.

I’ve never done the dot and dab or pound in place. Always done the shake.

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The u-notch seems like a good idea after all.
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Yes but the question is why are you looking at how to's on Youtube?
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Yes but the question is why are you looking at how to's on Youtube?
It popped up on the side of my youtube page, and I'm curious. Maybe the AI figured I need help.
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It popped up on the side of my youtube page, and I'm curious. Maybe the AI figured I need help.
I watch stuff on there occasionally, I don’t know everything and there are some real professionals who make videos. Manufacturers who demonstrate new products are also usually watchable.

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As long as it's damn near impossible to pull it back up to check for coverage, and you do have full coverage, then you're good.
There can be full coverage at the edges and a hollow center and you can barely get the tile up. Trying to raise the tile your fighting the bond and the "suction" created by the void. I find it harder to raise tiles with hollows than near full or full mortar coverage.

Anybody use the bucket trowel I see in a lot of the videos? I'm considering one, just not sure if it's better than the margin trowel.

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The glass was a cool trick to see how the mortar reacted.
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For those who don't tile a lot but want a variety of trowels.

http://www.barwalt.com/index.php/pro...trowel-system/

https://www.tiletools.com/product/ba...EaAv95EALw_wcB

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I looked at that system. Yea me I'd have half of them in my big rubbermaid container because I was in a hurry and said i'll get those in there later.

I was looking at the grout bucket system. Anyone use those on a reg. basis. Me. Its 2-5 gal. pails and 3 or 4 sponges. Then change water 2 or 3 times.

Better yet someone make a tool to remove those pesky tile leveller clips that randomly don't snap off underneath. Always seem to have 3 or 4. I notice the guru Sal even had a few on his videos but didn't show how he removed them

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I use the Ramondi bucket. I like the big sponges with the handle on urethane grout. I do change the water often.

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I use the Ramondi bucket. I like the big sponges with the handle on urethane grout. I do change the water often.

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How about on regular cement based grouts and
say a glass 30 sq ft.Kitchen backsplash do you still use the bucket.
I just assumed those wash systems were for large jobs
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How about on regular cement based grouts and
say a glass 30 sq ft.Kitchen backsplash do you still use the bucket.
I just assumed those wash systems were for large jobs
Yes, but I use their 5x11 instead of the 7x14.

I like how dry you can get the sponge with the rollers in the bucket. It takes some getting used to, but worth the effort to figure it out.

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Yes, but I use their 5x11 instead of the 7x14.

I like how dry you can get the sponge with the rollers in the bucket. It takes some getting used to, but worth the effort to figure it out.

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We haven't figured out how to get it dry...

The guys don't like to use it. What's the trick?
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It seems like yellow sponges from HD are harder to squeeze out than they used to be. I could use an upgrade. Anybody have a better option?

This looks the ones that I used to use and like.
http://www.lewiscontractorsales.com/...CABEgJNJfD_BwE

Or these....Hydra XL grout sponges.

http://www.contractorsdirect.com/Hyd...e-Grout-Sponge

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We haven't figured out how to get it dry...

The guys don't like to use it. What's the trick?
Get new guys...

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It seems like yellow sponges from HD are harder to squeeze out than they used to be. I could use an upgrade. Anybody have a better option?

This looks the ones that I used to use and like.
http://www.lewiscontractorsales.com/...CABEgJNJfD_BwE
I hear these are good, I've never used them.

http://www.tools4flooring.com/ardex-...ut-sponge.html

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I'm having a New Year's eureka moment right about now..."why do I still have these cr@ppy tools" (sponges in this case).....

Ever get that feeling?

The grout on my basement floor a few weeks ago suffered a little bit from a bad sponge and a lousy helper. I blame myself. Thank goodness the grout was a similar color to the tile, so it looked like an effect.
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can you tell me more about the Riamondi bucket Tom? Is it effective when using the single stage grouts (ie Flexcolor CQ)?

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