Tiling Shower And Seat

rbeck3@ec.rr.co

hey guys.
never tiled a shower but feel capable .but having concerns on tiling the shower seat.
The floor and seat have a rubber membrain installed by the plumbers. I pretty much read the" how too's" on the floor but have yet to find out anything on the seat.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance

Bud Cline

How you going to put tile on rubber?

Can you post a picture?

rbeck3@ec.rr.co

thats my response. i've never seen it done so im stumpedsure, i can get a pic

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passingwindII

Tileworks

Is it the same piece of membrane on the floor and crawling up the bench and over the seat?

The picture will definitely be useful.

- Bob

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rbeck3@ec.rr.co

yes, same membrane i will get pic this afternoon
thanks

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reveivl

Is it orange?

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send_it_all

I don't think the orange stuff can be mistaken for rubber. Maybe Ditra could, but that probably wouldn't be on a shower seat....I hope.

kevjob

is it a monlith bench with liner running up the face of the bench and over the seat and then up the wall again? what do i win?

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olzo55

plumbers won't be using Ditra very often since the mudbed would need to be inplace. probably a grey liner. betting the bench is carpenter built, too, not a monolithic bench. Best thing to do is pull off the bench liner and install your CBD on the seat. then apply your liquid membrane to the face, seat and around the sides finishing at the ceiling.

Mr.Renovator

As a bath remodeler we done many seats.We dont put rubber on them.
We build from framing lumber,instal l1 layer pt plywood with 1 layer of durarock on top.The seat should be sloped about1/8 to 3/16 .Barely noticeable.Then tile as normal.always seal with sealer,at begining and once a year,to keep moisture out.If moisture ever was to get in the durarock would never rot and also the pt wood would never rot.We have never had to repair one of ours in 20 years.

R&D Tile

That's the worst advice I've heard in awhile, I'm sure there are many rotted seats or leaking ones out there now, just no one bothered to call you back.


Sealers, grout and CBU aren't waterproof, all seats should be waterproofed BEFORE tiling them, period.

Tileworks

I have to agree here. While I would rather not construct a bench from lumber, sometimes I am in a position where I have to tile one. The entire bench and area around it get slathered in red gard.

- Bob

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genecarp

you are already in, dont rip it apart, this type of application, if it is what i think, it can work out, first off make sure the bench framing had slight pitch, then the membrane should have been glued to the bench, stick wonderboard or the similar to the bench surface, (if you must), use a couple of carefully placed screws, i know, everyone is going to yell, , talk the ho into using slab mat to cover the entire bench area, including the riser. slabs to be thinset to the wonderboard !!!!

note, this assumes what you have is coroloy or equal...

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R&D Tile

Scheeeesh, you can not install CBU over a liner on a bench and have it survive.

Kerdi the entire shower, or,


If using a liner, it only goes up the front of the bench as high as it does around the walls, 6 to 8" above the curb height, then the CBU is installed on the bench and over the liner as it's done for the walls, now you waterproof the entire seat with a liquid waterproofing membrane such as Redgard or Hydroban up to the water line [where the shower spray will hit] where it's installed or even better all the walls in the shower.

genecarp

[quote=rbeck3@ec.rr.co;501866]hey guys.
never tiled a shower but feel capable .but having concerns on tiling the shower seat.
The floor and seat have a rubber membrain installed by the plumbers.


existing condition

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R&D Tile

Then it should be REMOVED or cut down to where it needs to be, it's WRONG and won't work.

genecarp

where would the failure come from?

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R&D Tile

How do you plan on installing the cementboard over the liner without screwing through it?, once you do, it's all over, kiss it goodbye in a short time.

By the way, where are you located on the Island?

Huntington eh, just went to your site, nice work, leave the showers to me.LOL

genecarp

Thinset will stick to the poly, additionally, if you have a SLAB seat approx 16x16, that has been thinset to the poly, with 2 screws around the center of the seat surface, how will those 2 screws compromise the integrity of the shower, where are you located, btw this is not my invention, i have a tile installer that has been installing for me for the past 10 years, we have not had one failure or callback to date.

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genecarp

Here is some manufacturers data on thinsets ability to adhere to vinyle, now, if the vinyle can be glued to wood, and wonderboard can be glued to vinyle, there is your surface prepped to receive tile (or prefered slab), i am not saying this is the best approach, but givin the op situation i do not see any reason to rip out or cut back bench wrap. if there is some concrete facts as to why it will fail, i am all ears

http://www.reedfirstsource.com/m7/do...1_SD_22338.pdf

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