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Old 11-05-2017, 07:38 PM   #21
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I use VersaBond. I recommend using an additive in cases like this because like I said, call-backs are expensive. The additive seems like an inexpensive way to avoid them.

I've had jobs where I go in and demo a tile floor that was laid over vinyl (or over plastic laminate in the case of countertops) and I'll hit hollow spots where the mud has broken up over the years, as well as spots where the mud sheared right off the substrate (no backer there, but backer could, in theory, react the same way). After doing a little research I decided that utilizing an additive would be a good way to potentially avoid issues like this.

I'm not preaching this as a fool-proof method, just adding a layer of protection to the work.

Yes callbacks are expensive and you're adding an additive to a product (Versabond) that already has it in it, unless Custom gives directions for adding an additive to Versabond do you know what you are doing?
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I use VersaBond. I recommend using an additive in cases like this because like I said, call-backs are expensive. The additive seems like an inexpensive way to avoid them.

I've had jobs where I go in and demo a tile floor that was laid over vinyl (or over plastic laminate in the case of countertops) and I'll hit hollow spots where the mud has broken up over the years, as well as spots where the mud sheared right off the substrate (no backer there, but backer could, in theory, react the same way). After doing a little research I decided that utilizing an additive would be a good way to potentially avoid issues like this.

I'm not preaching this as a fool-proof method, just adding a layer of protection to the work.
Thinset, properly mixed, will not deteriorate over time. Properly installed it will not uncouple from the substrate, regardless is material.

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Looking for some insight on installing tile over vinyl flooring. Talked to another tile installer and he suggested removing top of vinyl with adhesive solvent ( so thinset can adhere to), lay thinset, then hardie board over. The floor is also low in some spots so he also suggested putting extra thinset in low spots (prior to laying hardie backer down) then fasten to floor. Is this a proper way to do this? Thanks!
how thick is the plywood underneath? whats the joist spacing?
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how thick is the plywood underneath? whats the joist spacing?
That was going to be my question after reading all this. Vinyl is put down over anything, tile takes a lot more stability in the sub structure for it to be correct.

Everyone already gave advice on what to use for thinset if you choose to go over the top of the vinyl. But until your post nobody mentioned anything about subfloor. That would be the main reason I would rip it all out because chances are the subfloor isn't correct for tile.
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That was going to be my question after reading all this. Vinyl is put down over anything, tile takes a lot more stability in the sub structure for it to be correct.

Everyone already gave advice on what to use for thinset if you choose to go over the top of the vinyl. But until your post nobody mentioned anything about subfloor. That would be the main reason I would rip it all out because chances are the subfloor isn't correct for tile.
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EcoPrim Grip and then Ditra or just tile if the subfloor underneath is sufficient.
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You don't just screw it down. That's the issue. You must apply thinset then the board, then screw it down. The thinset won't just adhere to the vinyl unless you are using some sticky icky like Ardex 77.
I never just screw mine down either. Anything I build is meant to last.

A guy I do work for got a cheaper guy to do his tile work because I wouldn't budge. His stuff is just screwed down with half the screws and crooked lines.

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