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Old 08-17-2009, 09:03 PM   #41
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Preaching to the choir...

I'll take the man at his word. It's his wife's mess and he's just doing the best he can to deal with it.

Tear it out?

The best advice in the world--yes.

Will it happen---

Thanks for the support Chris, I was not aware of the project status until AFTER the guy started the first night.
The story started something like this.......

I get a frantic call in the middle of the day
to get over to the shop b/c the tile is being delivered
in 30 minutes....woot ? Im like wtf you mean tile? Then she drops the bomb that she hired this nice guy to install it....im like....WHAT ???
So I go over to the shop and the guy is there.
While discussing the job with him when the tile was delivered he assured me he had done many tile floors and they all turned out great!....sound
familiar? That bell rang hard in my head that evening. Then I bitched my wife out for not discussing this with me.
What happened was she became aggrevated with me b/c
I wanted more time to plan. Shes not one to do much planning, she thinks shes wasting time.....
We had many conversations about the need to replace the delapidated 12 yr old VCT and I repeatedly told her not to do anything untill I could get more info on the right direction to take. She eventually caved when she got 3 different prices on the what she thought was identical scope projects. The low baller was this handy dandy fella who is friends with one of her tenants. He boasted a 1k pricetag for labor, it seemed to cheap compared to the 2-3K the box stores quoted her.
I figured she was just doing her normal...'I can get this done myself ' bit
that usually follows with 'you could probably do that job' crap.
I wasnt falling for it this time.
I knew this place was a ****storm waiting to happen ! I was there when the first moron placed the 3/8 ply right over the 2 different floor types. That is another sad day I'd rather not discuss.

So...as you all may already know, sometimes its easier to keep your mouth shut, sit back, and see what sticks to the wall !
Now Im telling her the ole " I told you so' speach and shes getting really hot! Im just gonna suck this one up and leave it that....before the atty's start ringing my phone.

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Old 08-17-2009, 09:07 PM   #42
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So...as you all may already know, sometimes its easier to keep your mouth shut, sit back, and see what sticks to the wall !
Now Im telling her the ole " I told you so' speach and shes getting really hot! Im just gonna suck this one up and leave it that....before the atty's start ringing my phone.
If I was you I would just forget about pointing out the mistake your wife made anymore, or it may be a divorce attorney you hear from.

You may want to at some time over a weekend when the shop is closed, have the flooring redone properly as a present to your wife.
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If I was you I would just forget about pointing out the mistake your wife made anymore, or it may be a divorce attorney you hear from.

You may want to at some time over a weekend when the shop is closed, have the flooring redone properly as a present to your wife.
Wow, thats a very amiable suggestion. I may decide to do that...if I can find the extra 6k in my sock drawer on xmas morning that is. I salute you bwalley
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Buy her jewelry... she'll appreciate it more, and you'll spend less...
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Buy her jewelry... she'll appreciate it more, and you'll spend less...
OMG, you wouldnt expect this hohu could do 1 more thing right...
I just saw the job he did on the threshold..
We got em a 6" and he installed it today.
To make up for the 1/2 difference in floors I figured he would just install the thing in the doorway and there would be a little less of a drop off on 1 side maybe 3/8"...instead he installed the fu**in thing at an angle lower on the low side up to the high side...OMFG this guy is a spankmonkey!

When things go bad.........
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Come on you know we need some pics lol
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Come on you know we need some pics lol

I think the wife may get more annoyed if I start posting pictures of this debacle. It wouldnt serve any purpose except rubbing her indiscretions in her face....and anywhere else I may feel fit !
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I believe the floor structure is sound.
YOU believe the floor structure is sound. And what is your training and background in determining this?

I'm afraid I have some more bad news for YOU my friend. The 2X8's are bad news and the span if you are correct about that is even badder news.

A floor structure used for a ceramic tile installation requires a deflection rating of L/360. Your floor with species unknown, full 2" X 8" joists, and a 15 foot span comes up to L/169. The materials covering the joists mean little in this calculation. I'll bet that bounces like a boxing ring when you walk on it.

OH WELL! Too late now.
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sorry mendel... on the bright side, you've got a hell of a pass on any future f/u's you make ... unless your wife is capable of turning this all around to be your fault, as some of the fairer of our species are quite capable of doing
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YOU believe the floor structure is sound. And what is your training and background in determining this?

I'm afraid I have some more bad news for YOU my friend. The 2X8's are bad news and the span if you are correct about that is even badder news.

A floor structure used for a ceramic tile installation requires a deflection rating of L/360. Your floor with species unknown, full 2" X 8" joists, and a 15 foot span comes up to L/169. The materials covering the joists mean little in this calculation. I'll bet that bounces like a boxing ring when you walk on it.

OH WELL! Too late now.

Sorry Bud,
You are being very helpful but I am afraid I misled you. I only guessed at the length of the floor joists. I just measured them and they are only 12'. Maybe that will help the calculation get within the requirements. Please recalc and let me know ?
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sorry mendel... on the bright side, you've got a hell of a pass on any future f/u's you make ... unless your wife is capable of turning this all around to be your fault, as some of the fairer of our species are quite capable of doing
Your right, - but not to sound like a primadonna- My F/U 's are few and far between. I am usually anal about my research if I dont know exactly how to do something. This is a good thing but here it turned out to be a crippling characteristic, because the long delay meant it got done out of frustration and need. All in all if she or I remember this when a F/U does come up, I will have a few extra bullets in the chamber to empty.
Thanx for the comment !

ps; no big deal but how did you find my name ? I dont remember posting it anywhere

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look at your user name
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ps; no big deal but how did you find my name ? I dont remember posting it anywhere
see?
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hmmmm, you assumed this from my username, why not just Mend ?
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You are hilarious !
Where you get these neat pics from?...heheheh, but I just googled myself and its all there, man I cant fathom what else is lurking in cyberspace about little ole me....peace
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You are giving me too much credit though, I didn't google, just thought mendel "fit" lucky guess, peace
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This is without knowing all the particulars but should be pretty close.

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