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Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fishers Indiana
Posts: 33
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Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
I have a homeowner who wants me to re-tile the hearth on the fireplace. What I don't understand is that they want me to take the tile inside the fireplace as well. I suppose this is acceptable but I need to understand the process. I am goin to hire a tile guy to come out and do the job but I would like to know a few things before I hire him.
Can it be done. Do you have to use a special kind of grout inside the fireplace itself. It is pretty unlevel inside there now due to the fact that its an older home, do we need to level it out with some type of self leveling compound. Any advice would be great. |
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Trade: TILE AND HARD SURFACE FLOORING
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: new castle, Pa
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
If its a real wood burning fireplace I wouldnt do it. Thats what fire brick and fire clay is for
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Tile Contractor
Trade: Building Trades-Specializing in Ceramic Tile
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hastings Nebraska
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
Can't be done.
Fire boxes are stacked not laminated. The interiors require special refractory mortars and firebricks. The hearth is OK but not the firebox interior.
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Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fishers Indiana
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
Thanks, That is what I thought but the homeowners keep telling me thats what they want. Maybe I get them to sign a waiver or maybe I just walk. Or maybe I send them here to get some good advice.
Thanks, again |
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
Just walk. We had a conversation about this over to John B's last year. I said the same thing you did-- get it in writing. Dave Gobis, who provides expert witness in legal cases told us that's even worse than ignoring the problem, because by getting something signed off, it's clear proof that you, as the professional are aware that you're doing something that's not going to stand up to industry standards, and most judges, if it gets legal, will throw the book at you.
Your only choice-- Walk away.
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Its all ball bearings
Trade: Tile
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Will County, Illinois
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
Wise words, Bil!!!!
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Trade: home builder carpenter Central Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: valley grande, al
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
I think anything other than brick, stone or maybe slate around a fireplace is just stupid and defeats the purpose of the fireplace (besides heating). But tile inside the fire box WTF!! Must be some yuppies. Wouldent you love to just do it anyway and wast their money if you new it wouldent come back on you. Dont do it.
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Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fishers Indiana
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
I managed to talk them out of it. Believe it or not they are ok with this. I had them come with me to a local tile store to choose selections and had the rep thier talk them out of it. I am thankful for this because I didn't want to walk. They have two bathrooms that they want re-done and want me to build one in the basement.
And no they are not yuppies just two average very wealthy "guys" who live together. Thanks again for all the advice |
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Trade: Tilesetter
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary AB
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Tile & Marble Contractor
Trade: Tampa Tile Contractor
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
Bill is a plethora of information isn't he ?
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Trade: Ceramic Tile
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
Where did I just here that was the word of the day?
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
Hey Dave!! Bout time you showed up over here!
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Trade: Sanket
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
take care of proper brick layer than check for the tile layer..proper arrangement must necessary.
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Trade: General Contractor, Remodeler
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Eugene, OR.
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Re: Tile Inside Of A FireplaceQuote:
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Registered User
Trade: Tile, Masonry, Plumbing and Kitchen & Bath Remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Roanoke, Va
Posts: 17
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Re: Tile Inside Of A Fireplace
I agree with everyone here. Don't do it. I have laid tile and brick for 22 yrs and alot of fireplaces and if you install tile in the firebox more than likely the tile will crack from the heat.
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