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Old 08-18-2017, 08:45 PM   #21
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There are 3 big tile suppliers around here, they won't even talk to you unless you have an account or someone with an account calls them and gives them your name and gives them specific information that they're allowed to share with you. It's downright crazy. Never encountered anything like it before.
That's nuts. Where are you located?

Around here, sometimes the showroom guy (or lady) is the one to quietly slip you a business card. Many of ours will do that.

Or size up the folks doing material pick-ups and ask for a card in the lot.
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Is that wall to the left where the tub is? If so make that about 6" or so above the tub deck with glass on top.
Almost every shower like that I'm ripping out and making it glass walled.

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There are 3 big tile suppliers around here, they won't even talk to you unless you have an account or someone with an account calls them and gives them your name and gives them specific information that they're allowed to share with you. It's downright crazy. Never encountered anything like it before.
That is nonsense, so there is no retail tile sales in your area? Are you sure you are not talking about a distributor rather than retail showroom?
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That is nonsense, so there is no retail tile sales in your area? Are you sure you are not talking about a distributor rather than retail showroom?
You can go to Home Depot, lowes, menards but not the professional tile shops. They have showrooms but only for their account holders and their customers. I **** you not. They won't even talk to you on the phone.
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You can go to Home Depot, lowes, menards but not the professional tile shops. They have showrooms but only for their account holders and their customers. I **** you not. They won't even talk to you on the phone.
What city/area is this?
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What city/area is this?
Grand Rapids Michigan.

He isn't lying.
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Is that wall to the left where the tub is? If so make that about 6" or so above the tub deck with glass on top.
Almost every shower like that I'm ripping out and making it glass walled.

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Follow simple instructions, plane or shim any wavy studs before installing.
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Mapei Flexcolor CQ for grout.
Large tiles, use a tile leveling system.


Yeah, the tub is going next to the shower and they will share a wall
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I'd make that wall between the tub and shower as much glass as I could. Make it feel open.
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I like that idea
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Grand Rapids Michigan.

He isn't lying.
So let me get this straight...If I were to go to one of the Genessee Tile counters (contractor side, for example) and ask for a name or two of contractors/installers that buy from them, they're going to give me nothing? I can see it happening when other customers are around, but otherwise it sounds nuts.
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So let me get this straight...If I were to go to one of the Genessee Tile counters (contractor side, for example) and ask for a name or two of contractors/installers that buy from them, they're going to give me nothing? I can see it happening when other customers are around, but otherwise it sounds nuts.
More than likely. I sent my boss (same one who offered but never showed for my kitchen) and our customer to one and they wouldn't give them the time of day. It is where I used to buy grout for the reptile hides I made...no idea why they sold to me. I think they found my product interesting
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More than likely. I sent my boss (same one who offered but never showed for my kitchen) and our customer to one and they wouldn't give them the time of day. It is where I used to buy grout for the reptile hides I made...no idea why they sold to me. I think they found my product interesting
Geez, they sound uppity. Next time tell them you're going to send all your clients and referrals to The Tile Shop.
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I agree on the glass wall. Then just have it open with no door if you are tiling the whole floor. Just did a shower panel on one. It looks good and is great for resale value.
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So let me get this straight...If I were to go to one of the Genessee Tile counters (contractor side, for example) and ask for a name or two of contractors/installers that buy from them, they're going to give me nothing? I can see it happening when other customers are around, but otherwise it sounds nuts.

You could probably pull in the parking lot by the contractor loading dock and wait for a tiler to load up but how are you going to know the quality of their work. Same as if you get a referral from the counter lady. They don't ever see the finished product.

Genessee, Dal and Virginia are all the same. I only have "experience" with G & D but I've been told Virginia is the same.

Anyways, sounds like Andy knows someone so time to get back to his topic.

I know that his size shower done with basic tile, 100% professional with all Schluter stuff and a real mud pan, one small niche and a basic seat is going to be at least $6K. That's with him installing drywall on the inside with no mud. If you mud, you have to prime the mud. You can [carefully] use grey mesh tape and thinset on any taper joints. Or avoid taper joints. Or have your installer use kerdi board instead of membrane

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I know of a decorative builders hardware supplier who for 40 years or so would not sell retail, one of the owners hated people. Just about everyone.

When he retired the started to sell retail and their business increased at least 20 fold, quadrupled the size of the building and staff.
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I know of a decorative builders hardware supplier who for 40 years or so would not sell retail, one of the owners hated people. Just about everyone.

When he retired the started to sell retail and their business increased at least 20 fold, quadrupled the size of the building and staff.
The gene see will sell retail but you'll pay $6 for $1.5 tile. They don't know the price and don't want to sell it to you so it takes them a long time to look it up. You can go look in their showroom for ideas. Just tell them you were sent in by your tile guy. When they ask who, just say mr Johnson. If they press for a company name you just tell them you found him on Craigslist and only know him by Richard Johnson and he'll be placing the order.

I went in once to do a pickup and they had my name ok'd by my sub but I was still treated like the plague. Weird place.

I'd avoid them if possible. One of our Home Depots has a nice selection and there's alwYs the internets.
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Geez, they sound uppity. Next time tell them you're going to send all your clients and referrals to The Tile Shop.
The Tile Shop will work with anyone and give out contractors but they have no idea what kind of work they do and tell you so. Plus, my local TTS seems to carry what one of my local HD's carry for 30% more $$$$.
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I know the people to refer me a good tile guy. I know a couple builders that have extremely high standards and a customer who owns sever al flooring stores. Possibly hiring out all of my tile is a real consideration.

I bought tile for my kitchen a few years ago and my boss was supposed to come teach me because he wanted me to learn it. He broke 4 separate weekends he was supposed to come over and help me so I returned it and threw down sheet vinyl.

I still may try it I don't know, I've been told I would be great at it

I wouldn't recommend your first tile job being a shower, especially that shower. It will take you 2 months (at least), everyday after work and weekends.

If you need design help, check out Town & Country on Leonard and Fuller. They'll sell you just the supplies too, if you decide to do it yourself.

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