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Old 08-18-2017, 01:51 PM   #1
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So i have my shower walls pretty much framed.

6'x5', I am thinking a 48"~ bench along both the exterior wall and partition wall starting in the back corner. With corner shelving on both sides .

2 shower heads, not sure if I want them ceiling or wall mounted

I would also like to move this imitation glass block window from downstairs to the shower wall.

Also going to add a couple towel hooks on the wall to the left of the entry.


Full tile floor and walls. What do I need to take into consideration? I think I've put down 10 tiles in my life, never done a shower myself before
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Old 08-18-2017, 03:56 PM   #2
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Glass block is seriously out of style. Remove it, don't move it.

Do 1 head on the wall and 1 on the ceiling.

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Those windows need to be tempered.

Blocking, lots of blocking. Especially where your shower door is going to attach. I don't know how many new builds or remodels I do that they didn't think about blocking for the hinges. If you are doing a 3/8 heavy door, you want stout blocking. It is recommended to have 2x material side by side instead or flat, but I don't know if it really makes much difference if you pretrial, just make sure you do it like a buck, so it can't deform towards the wall.

Blocking for any future grab bars might be nice.

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Glass block is seriously out of style. Remove it, don't move it.

Do 1 head on the wall and 1 on the ceiling.
Not at all out of style, it is used a lot in contemporary/ industrial designs


not all glass block has to be tempered to be in a shower, as long as the manufacturer has tested the window to meet the code requirements it is good. The manufacturer should have the paperwork for it. I have no idea how it is tested but the little piece of paper is all my inspector wanted to see.

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Why the odd angle on the door wall?
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Why the odd angle on the door wall?
That is just how it worked out, no sense having a 12" space between the tub and shower walls, and with the angle the corners will transition smoothly.

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I'm assuming the faux glass block is approved sense the old master tub was under it.
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Definitely some kind of plastic, has a little give to it
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If you're busy enough, just do what you like to specialize in and hire a guy. There are so many tiny ways to f** it up other wise.

But if you want to have at it, take a look at the john bridge tile forums and use their liberry.
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If you're busy enough, just do what you like to specialize in and hire a guy. There are so many tiny ways to f** it up other wise.

But if you want to have at it, take a look at the john bridge tile forums and use their liberry.
Couldn't agree more. most baths are ruined by improper installs, not by age. Finding a tile guy worthy of the title, now that's a different story....
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Most folks get faked out by pics on somebody's mobile phone. Worthless, except having a lot of pics kind of stands for "something". Yet these are some of the biggest bullchitters anyway, at least around here.

Definitely separate the prep/build methods from the tilework, when assessing who to hire. Prep method is key. Any "artist" can do great tilework to cover up the sins, at least for a while.

I would head to a tile supplier and get a few names on who buys a lot of Schluter or Wedi, the give one of them a call.
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Most folks get faked out by pics on somebody's mobile phone. Worthless, except having a lot of pics kind of stands for "something". Yet these are some of the biggest bullchitters anyway, at least around here.

Definitely separate the prep/build methods from the tilework, when assessing who to hire. Prep method is key. Any "artist" can do great tilework to cover up the sins, at least for a while.

I would head to a tile supplier and get a few names on who buys a lot of Schluter or Wedi, the give one of them a call.
I know the people to refer me a good tile guy. I know a couple builders that have extremely high standards and a customer who owns sever al flooring stores. Possibly hiring out all of my tile is a real consideration.

I bought tile for my kitchen a few years ago and my boss was supposed to come teach me because he wanted me to learn it. He broke 4 separate weekends he was supposed to come over and help me so I returned it and threw down sheet vinyl.

I still may try it I don't know, I've been told I would be great at it
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I know the people to refer me a good tile guy. I know a couple builders that have extremely high standards and a customer who owns sever al flooring stores. Possibly hiring out all of my tile is a real consideration.

I bought tile for my kitchen a few years ago and my boss was supposed to come teach me because he wanted me to learn it. He broke 4 separate weekends he was supposed to come over and help me so I returned it and threw down sheet vinyl.

I still may try it I don't know, I've been told I would be great at it
No doubt you can do it, but how much time do you have? Doing a bath correctly is lot of chit..the tiling is the least of it (but important, too).
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My thoughts:
Schluter Systems Kerdi or equivalent. The foam walls work great too.
No need for more than one small bench. A niche or two is a requirement. Depending on bench location a small niche opposite to rest the legs on while shaving and sitting. Well rounded for comfort of the foot, and/or angled.
Steam shower-ish. Tile the ceiling, and have the glass go way up, if not to the ceiling.
Panasonic Whisper fan on a timer.
Glass is a pain...use more glass for the shower door and walls, since natural daylight is nice to have. Setup a nice place to store the needed glass squeegee.
A nice 10-12" overhead rain shower head. On the wall mount a Euro style bar with a hand shower.
Curbless shower. Okay I just like them, but they require more work, since you have to cut down the joists, and possibly add more structure. They also require a more costly drain.
Always flat stones on the floor, or tile.
Windows and skylights to let in lots of natural daylight. Safety glass if needed.
No clay tiles, as they chip too easily. Corian is cool! Porcelain or natural stone. Uggg...I am so sick of brown anything. Make sure they will be easy to clean long term.
Water temp settings, so all you have to do is turn the shower on or off. I have been happy using Hansgrohe, which can also control a dual shower head. On-off-both.

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No doubt you can do it, but how much time do you have? Doing a bath correctly is lot of chit..the tiling is the least of it (but important, too).
It will really boil down to what is going on when we get to that point I guess. I already know my problem will be in picking color and pattern as normal straight runs just will not do for me. Unless I hire it out of course because then I'm sure say pinwheel on a 45° angle will be mighty labor intensive and expensive...lol
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I also know the devil is always in the prep details, properly sloped mud bed, floated walls, etc
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doing it yourself on a 2nd bath is much less stressful than on one like that.

The angles may look cool but add in a bench and it can create problems you may not realize until it is too late
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I know a guy that does a lot of showers.........but I wouldn't let him do one on my job or in my own house.
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Most folks get faked out by pics on somebody's mobile phone. Worthless, except having a lot of pics kind of stands for "something". Yet these are some of the biggest bullchitters anyway, at least around here.

Definitely separate the prep/build methods from the tilework, when assessing who to hire. Prep method is key. Any "artist" can do great tilework to cover up the sins, at least for a while.

I would head to a tile supplier and get a few names on who buys a lot of Schluter or Wedi, the give one of them a call.

There are 3 big tile suppliers around here, they won't even talk to you unless you have an account or someone with an account calls them and gives them your name and gives them specific information that they're allowed to share with you. It's downright crazy. Never encountered anything like it before.

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