Schluter Shower Systems

OGStilts

NO!!! Don't report him to the BBB! What ever would he do?

I'm with Double A - what's the problem? The way I read it is he is charging the same as before and we have already established that the Kerdi is more expensive than a mud pan and is arguably a better product. Sounds like he's do a good job for his customers to me.

Alright, now you can go back to my 8th grade teacher and tell her I was the one throwing the spitballs in class.

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PrecisionFloors

There's so much wrong with this line of thinking, I had to re-read it three times to be sure you actually printed it. If you've never tried something how in the blue blazes do you know what you prefer. In order to have a preference , one has to have a reference point, i.e. something to compare something else to.

Matt you can save a bunch by getting your head out of the sand and learning something new. I think at this point though, your pride won't let you. I swear, every time a Schluter thread pops up, you rush in to let us all know how stupid we are for drinking the orange kool-aid.....yet you profess not to use it, so how do you know its a waste of money actually? Tell me again how much your time is worth to you....Oh yeah considering I gain a day on you over a mud pan, and I'm able to charge more to an educated consumer, where is the down side again?

Do you use backer boards? What about thinset? Epoxy grouts? A wet saw? All of those were new to the tle industry at one time too

It's funny, every tile man that down plays the value of a Kerdi shower, is one that's never used it.
I've yet to hear of one that tried it that didn't like it and agree with it's principles.

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jarvis design

1. I normally run the kerdi tight to the tub and then seal with Kerdi-fix

2. No - but if your customer is worried about grout maintanence, mould, etc. you can grout it with Laticrete Spectra-Lock Epoxy grout. - never needs sealing - 99% water/stain proof - and this stuff (IMO) is just as easy to use as traditional grout

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Bud Cline

Just as well report me to the BBB while your at it 'cause I do the same thing. Schluter products have taken dollars from my pocket and put them into their own pockets. At the same time Schluter costs me 500 percent more money than the old way of doing things they also free-up 85 percent of my installation time that I can spend doing other things.

By the way...if you think the BBB has any stroke you are lacking of experience in more ways than one. The only authority the BBB has is over the fools that join and pay their membership dues. The BBB is a shallow hollow organization with no teeth what-so-ever. Try to complain to them and see the bull**** you have to go through. It's stupid.

jarvis design

I see the BBB in the US is about as useful as the one we have here in Canada!!
I can count on (less than) one hand how many times I have been asked if I was a member of the BBB in the last 20 years.

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coveinspiration

I like the schluter pans but I wouldn't waste your time with putting the kerdi up the walls. Just buy some good backerboard and kerdi the pan. It will save you a bunch of time!

angus242

Then what do you recommend for waterproofing the walls?

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Bud Cline

Well let's see...........

HPG
9235
Redgard
Laticrete Floor and Wall Waterproofing

The list goes on.

Been doin' it for years.

angus242

Bud, my comment was directed at coveinspiration as his comment sounded like waterproofing was not necessary.

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Bud Cline

WHOOPS!

OK, I'll shut up. Disregard previous message.


YOW coveinspiration what do you reccommend?

rbsremodeling

Good thing you apologized I was about to call the B.B.B on you

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coveinspiration

LOL I just came across this and someone was asking if I thought waterproofing was not necessary and now I feel like I have to answer it even thought it's a year old. I wasn't saying not to waterproof. I just think Kerdi takes a lot of time and don't suggest doing it the whole way up the wall. Redgard is great it goes on a lot faster!

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angus242

So RedGard is faster than Kerdi....even though RedGard takes a minimum of two coats and possibly more? What is the wait time between each coat?

Sorry. I don't buy it at all.

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coveinspiration

Well I guess it all depends on what you are most comfortable. You live for this website don't you?

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opiethetileman

redgaurd is worse thatn a colored koolaide... with a kids toy in it...

I am a hydroban man by far...alot easier to use and less build up in the corners. Do not get me wrong the schulter kit is a great product. And yes I have done quite a few kerdi showers and such. But my favorite is a schulter drain with hydroban..


yeah the new kerdi board is out so i am going to take a look at that and go fromt here. have a shower next week to do. and i might just weigh it all out..


but yeah regardless of the time it take to do what ever system you want..Get up to date on the new products out there.. Its called change and new ideas to save time and speed up a job. Yeah we all know the schinizzle shower is mud with a membrane over it. But hello who is paying for that. In order to learn you must look into new products that are being introduced out there in the industry. Not just tile or such but everywhere.

yeah my first kerdi shower was a slow one. But its like a bicycle the more ya do the easier and faster you become at it. I am laticrete lover like no other

angus242

That make way more sense. Be proficient at what ever it is you use. I never said RedGard was bad, just that I prefer a sheet membrane over liquid.

What's with the "live for the website" comment?

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opiethetileman

sheets are good angus...keeps ya warm and air tight at nite lol...yeah have ya ever tried hydroban yet thou.....its a good product.....


but hey this seems to be a funwebsite and forum just sorry i wasted 6 years over at the kiddie pool to only be banned because my brain was to big.......

angus242

Yep, aware of hydroban. I still prefer Kerdi for bathroom installations.

I would use Hydroban as a first choice for exterior applications.

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jarvis design

Its nice that this is a discussion on which waterproofing is better, not whether or not it's required. I use mostly kerdi, have tried hydroban, with me, juries still out!

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Bud Cline

OK......what's the "kiddie pool"? Is it what I think it is?

Next question. I'm too lazy to look it up right now but doesn't RedGard require fabric in the case of waterproofing shower walls? I use Redgard or HPG all the time without fabric and the truth is I'm not sure. I do know just one application of any of them isn't enough to instill any confidence.

And another question. How do you get your confidence-level up using Hydro Ban? I used it years ago and it made me nervous.