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Old 04-21-2008, 10:37 AM   #1
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Is it just me or do all carpenters think they are tile guys ?

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Old 04-21-2008, 10:39 AM   #2
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Where is that coming from?
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I saw a funny truck the other day.

"Plumbing and Tile"
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Well lets reverse that, Do all tile guy's think they are carpenters?

It's irrelevent in the fact that it depends on what the person is trained to be or has experiance and licensing to do.

I've seen many fine carpenters that can lay tile if called to, I've seen many fine tile guy's that can hammer a nail.

Even seen a few plumbers that can lay a tile (at least those two are related trades).

Funniest one's I see are electrical and plumbing companies, Sparks and water ain't never mixed well.

These are all specialty trades, which is what I am licensed in. Carpentry, masonry and flooring.

How about the GC that can't do any of it, just carries a license, and runs the business. Has no idea about practicle applications.
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Well, hey there, welcome to the site! You wouldn't wanna be starting a flame war with a general statement like that, would ya?

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Is it just me or do all carpenters think they are tile guys ?
Tread a little more softly or people might just think you're a douchebag...calling ALL carpenters "posers" within your first 2 posts on this site.

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I'm still trying to figure out how plumbing and tile are related.
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I'm still trying to figure out how plumbing and tile are related.
Specialty trades Matt......

The same way Carpentry and Tile or Electrical and Plumbing are related. I guess all trades are related in some way or another. Can't have 1 without the other in most cases.
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well with that thinking, how are excavation and trim carpentry related? Just becuase you can't have trim without the excavation first?
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well with that thinking, how are excavation and trim carpentry related? Just becuase you can't have trim without the excavation first?
Thats pretty much what I was getting at yeah!

We are stretching the relation a little bit with the excav to trim specialties.

But admit this, as an excavator you have to know or at least be aware of certain things related to plumbing, framing and masonry correct?
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Thats correct, but having knowledge of, and actually being able to apply that knowledge are 2 completely different principles. I am not disagreeing with you at all, I believe all trades should understand the others, that way the last man in the house is not getting completly screwed by everyone infront of him (or her). I also completly disagree with the OP, he is an obvious delta bravo. I am a 'capenter' but I do all of my own tile, and it comes out great, but i never claim to be a tile expert.
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Thats correct, but having knowledge of, and actually being able to apply that knowledge are 2 completely different principles. I am not disagreeing with you at all, I believe all trades should understand the others, that way the last man in the house is not getting completly screwed by everyone infront of him (or her). I also completly disagree with the OP, he is an obvious delta bravo. I am a 'capenter' but I do all of my own tile, and it comes out great, but i never claim to be a tile expert.
I think we are in agreement here, we just seem to be saying it in 2 different ways.

As with things asked here in the past, how are they related.
Trim carpentry and tile? Framing and roofing? Foundations and drywall?
If you look along these lines 1 must know something about the other for the whole scheme to work out.

Whats the theory of relativity.All things in spacial concepts are related.

Let me answer the OP's question in simple terms.
Nope,it's just you!!!
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Do all tile guys think they are painters?
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:02 PM   #13
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Given above rationales tile and carpentry are pretty well related too; I make my tile guy's life a whole lot more livable by spending hours shimming and planing studs or sistering new studs on to make walls flat and plumb and corners plumb and square.

Right now my problem is a plumber who thinks he can plumb and a drywaller who thinks he can drywall.

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Are all tile guys prima donna crybabies?
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Is it just me or do all carpenters think they are tile guys ?
Lay off them!! Definately just you. Without them there would be no scapegoat for most interior trades. They(framers) always get the blame even when it's not their fault...even though it usually is their fault.
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Do all tile guys think they are painters?
Hell No! I do a lot of things....paintin ain't one of em
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Are all tile guys prima donna crybabies?
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...must be just you....
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:57 PM   #18
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Being that I've been away from union work now for about 18 years, I can't say if it's still the same, but it used to be that there were just as many jurisdictions across the country where the tile mechanics were part of the carpenters union as there were that they were part of the Bricklayers and Allied Craftsmen.

Just a little piece of pertenent trivia.

I have no problem with carpenters, plumbers, painters, or anyone else who tries their hand at tile..... even HOMEOWNERS!! :-)

Just like guys who specialize in tile-- some catch on and get really good at it. I can think of several just here in this forum. As for the others, well, lets just say they make ME look good!!

There are only two professions that I'd like to see stay away from thinking they know what they're doing with tile-- engineers and architects!! It's always SOOOOO much easier to draw it on paper than to work it out for real!!
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:09 PM   #19
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I think that tile work is VERY similar to carpentry. Just a different material. You gotta do some layout, you gotta measure, you gotta cut the material to fit in the space you measured, then you gotta attach it.

Seems to me that there are some similarities.
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The truth is i think all tile layers think they are also "stone masons" Which is a wide term, could mean gravel for all i know

My name is Jim and i'm a carpentertileguyplumbermasoncabinetmakerwindowandd oorinstallercustomfinishworkelectricianroofersiddi ngguy

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