New Ridgid wet saw - Page 2 - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

Jack Rafter · 11-27-2007, 04:49 PM

Here's another MK Fan. I've had mine for about 18 years. I think it cuts better then my PM66

silvertree · 11-27-2007, 05:01 PM

I've been using the MK 660 for 10 years, it still works so good I haven't even thought of a new tile saw. When this one goes I'll check out the Rigid and DeWalt. I use a Nattco 24" for straight cuts and nothing is faster. With those 2 cutters everything gets done.

ApgarNJ · 11-27-2007, 07:17 PM

i almost bought the 660 but decided against it, wanted something to handle bigger floor tiles. it was a hard decision though. i sometimes want it when i pick up the 101 and realize how awkward it is to load in and out of the truck. soon it'll be in my trailer so it can stay on the stand all the time and get wheeled in and out when i need it.

silvertree · 11-27-2007, 07:31 PM

When I reached a certain age I started asking how much the tool I was looking at weighed. I have a small Senco compressor that will shoot pin nails all day long. A 10" compound miter box, Paslode Impulse framing gun and brad nailer. So the MK660 was big enough to do the work I did and light enough so I didn't grunt when I moved it. When I need a bigger tool I bring it, most times I get by with the lighter tools.

wackman · 11-28-2007, 05:11 AM

One of my guys owns an Mk (not sure what model but I think it's the 660) and now he's using the Rigid I just bought. I asked him what he thought and how did it compare to his.

He's old school and we don't usually agree on tools (he uses a sidewinder, I like worm drives, he prefers to hand pound his nails, I'll use my framer on hangers

etc.. but he actually said he like the rigid better, and not because of the size or fancy stuff. He said he just flat out thinks it's a better saw. I haven't used it yet but I suspect we'll agree on this one.

Wack

silvertree · 11-28-2007, 05:43 PM

Went to HD to pick up some fuel for my Impulse nailer and looked at thr Rigid tile saw. Makes my MK660 look like a Yugo. Very nice, but I'm waiting for the MK to break.

Bill_Vincent · 11-29-2007, 11:28 PM

To all you MK fans, the saw my partner had in the following article was a brand new oversized MK101.

Enjoy:

http://powerpr.com/articles/articles.asp?include=971

One other article you might want to read concerning the technical aspects of the motor power on the saws-- it explains why not all 1 1/2 horse motors are created equal:

http://johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2672

One last thing-- just to be fair-- the MK I had before my Target-- the one mentioned in the article-- I still have that saw. It's 24 years old, and still cutting. That's now going to be my stepson's first saw. But that also wasn't a standard 1 horse motor-- it was one of the original dual voltage motors. It can be used either on 110 or 220 volt power.

tileguy51 · 11-30-2007, 06:45 AM

I just had to take my new ridgid saw back to Home depot. it had a bad bearing in it and started vibrating and cracking every tile I cut, at first I thought it was just the tile I was using but when I went to the next job It kept doing it, the last thing I cut was an limestone seat and then it really started vibrating. The manager at HD gave me some problems, He said they usually sent ridgid tools out to be fixed. I didnt even have it 30 days and I had my receipt, he said this time he could take it back but if it happend again they would have to send it out. I told him if it happend again I would be coming to get my money and going to get the dewalt saw.

ApgarNJ · 11-30-2007, 06:53 AM

you gotta get MK or better. i wouldn't trust dewalt or rigid to make anything that is going to LAST.

kevjob · 12-01-2007, 08:32 PM

I am a remodeler and the dewalt weighs less has more water catching pans so for me it is great but this month I will lay 150 sq ft of floor tile in a basmnet finish and master bath remodel.

wackman · 12-02-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ApgarNJ

you gotta get MK or better. i wouldn't trust dewalt or rigid to make anything that is going to LAST.

You don't think DeWalt makes a product that will last? I put them as one of my top brands overall.

DeWalt- Very inovative and came up with the designs for several of the tools we commonly use and others copied.
Bosch-Almost everything they make is top rated. I heard they are so big that they make power tools primarily as a tax shelter, meaning they put so much into them that, for the price they sell for they don't make money and they write that loss off.
Makita- Always top notch.

Rigid is getting better but I wouldn't put them up there yet but I have faith in DeWalt for sure.

Wack

Bill_Vincent · 12-02-2007, 07:57 PM

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You don't think DeWalt makes a product that will last? I put them as one of my top brands overall.

Atleast in the case of their wetsaws, not on a bet. You want a top brand, pick up a Target or a Felker. You'll see and feel an immediate difference, not to mention it'll still be going long after that Dewalt is dead and buried.

B_E_Const. · 12-02-2007, 08:45 PM

I've used many saws out there, and have finally found my favorite. An IMER combicut 250, yeah its spendy, but is perfects cuts evertime!!
Burning out the motors in my MK's got old, the first time I used this bridge saw I loved it.

ApgarNJ · 12-02-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wackman

You don't think DeWalt makes a product that will last? I put them as one of my top brands overall.

DeWalt- Very inovative and came up with the designs for several of the tools we commonly use and others copied.
Bosch-Almost everything they make is top rated. I heard they are so big that they make power tools primarily as a tax shelter, meaning they put so much into them that, for the price they sell for they don't make money and they write that loss off.
Makita- Always top notch.

Rigid is getting better but I wouldn't put them up there yet but I have faith in DeWalt for sure.

Wack

dewalt is ok for many tools. i own a several. but not for wetsaws. i want to stick with the company who's been making them a long time. and are tested.

if i did tile fulltime, i'd be buying one of those targets

hey bill, did husquavarna change anything in the new saws?

Bill_Vincent · 12-02-2007, 10:24 PM

They've changed quite a bit since I bought mine. (the year before they went to the G2's) From the "throat" on the saw frame, to the travel of the table (both accept much bigger tiles) to even the stand, which now has wheels, there are all kinds of changes for the better.

Two things that HAVEN'T changed-- that Baldor motor, and the quality!

wackman · 12-04-2007, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by B_E_Const.

I've used many saws out there, and have finally found my favorite. An IMER combicut 250, yeah its spendy, but is perfects cuts evertime!!
Burning out the motors in my MK's got old, the first time I used this bridge saw I loved it.

Funny you say that. Before I bought this rigid I was renting my saws from the tool rental. They were all Imers and always so off that I couldn't do a decent job, especially on the long cuts. Plus they seemed like they had no adjustablitity. I spent hours one day trying to align it and it just couldn't do it. I took it back, got another one and that one had the same problem. When I complained they said they couldn't get them realigned and they're a rental shop, if someone needs a saw that accurate then they usually buy their own. They said they buy ones that don't break easy, not accurate ones.

Told me it was time to buy my own.

Granted I'm not sure what model those are and they are rental saws so they probably get a lot of abuse but in my mind they were crap. Probably not the case normally, just in this situation.

How much is a Target or Felker costing for a model that is comparable in cutting size (tile size) as the dewalt or rigid? If they're similar priced I'd look at them in case I have any problems with the rigid. We do most of our own tile but that's still a small part of our business so I can't justify a real expensive one yet.

Wack

Bill_Vincent · 12-04-2007, 09:14 AM

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If they're similar priced I'd look at them in case I have any problems with the rigid.

Not even close. Atleast in the case of a Target, it's about double the price. But you get what you pay for. I can't begin to count the tens of thousands of feet of tile that have been run through that saw over the last 4 years, and it's still as dead on and has as much power as the day I unboxed it.

STONE CRAZY · 12-23-2007, 11:57 PM

I hear alot of talk about Mk and Target but give Ridgid a chance. I had a MK for years and used a friends Target alot on the jobsite until ridgid came out with theirs. I was a little scared to buy and try something new but im glad i did, there are so many new features and upgrades the Ridgid has over the MK and Target or Felker its sick, plus the stand and wheels system Ridgid has makes it a breeze to move saw around. Its rips through stone tile way better and easier than my MK or the Target i have used. Will it last , we dont know yet, lets give it some years of use and find out. The slide action on the cutting table is awesome, other saws i had rubbed and needed alot of oil to keep them going. I have been installing for 18 years now and by far this ridgid is the most powerful and luxurious tile saw with all the options that i have ever owned. GIVE IT A CHANCE, REMEMBER FELKER , MK AND TARGET ALL USED TO BE NEW SAWS AT ONE POINT ALSO. For those of you saying Ridgid will long be dead before the target, whats your proof on that and how do you come up with that statement when ridgid is so new. I bought it, tried it, and will never buy another MK or any other tile saw again.

Bill_Vincent · 12-24-2007, 07:27 AM

Read the following thread at John Bridge's "liberry":

http://johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2672

It's very enlightening, to say the least.

Jerry T · 12-24-2007, 03:19 PM

I bought the Dewalt when it first came out and I love it. I did get the newer version blade but other than that I have never touched it. Everything is still all lined up and I have never lubed anything.