Need A Half Inch

G-Build

Customer wants a level transition to carpet, so i need to bring up the tile [12x12] by half an inch. The floor is a concrete slab thats sealed and in good condition. No cracks or moisture problems. The area is 175 sq ft in a finished basement. I planned on using Ditra. Any suggestions for the 1/2" build up?

Gary.

R&D Tile

First, you need to remove the sealer, mechanically, no chemicals.

JumboJack

How about putting down cement bord first?

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in texas with framing and cornish people will do it for 3.00 a foot. What do yall think about that? Just laber

Brock

What's under the carpet that is making it a full 1/2 inch higher?

Brock

Can you please explain the procedure for that process?

Bud Cline

Forget it Brock, cement board on concrete is never a good idea.

Actually the carpet will of course naturally crush when walked on at the transition and the tile will easily come up to just under 1/2" anyway. I don't see the problem with leaving everything as-is. If cracking concrete is an issue then DITRA at 1/8" would also work out fine.

Customers must understand that a transition of tile flushing up with carpet just ain't gonna happen.

send_it_all

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JumboJack

Well you could screw it down.Granted that would be a PIA.Also you could try a P.A.T..
He wanted a way to get 1/2"..That was one way.

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in texas with framing and cornish people will do it for 3.00 a foot. What do yall think about that? Just laber

Brock

It was a joke. I can't imagine there is a hack alive that would try such an idiotic idea. My post was just a stab at sarcasm. It shows that there really are people in the field installing that shouldn't be.

genecarp

confused by this thread

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genecarp

1/2'' notched trowel wtf

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PrecisionFloors

Yeah I hear them Tapcons work really great for that....

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Floordude

Your fixing to mess up big time!! The carpet needs to be higher then the tile, to some degree!! If not, your going to have a tile edge that is going to get abused and if it is a cut edge, will it be sharp and cut there foot, that is if your not using a metal edge profile??

Ditra will be all you want to go, if that, or your going to be ramping up under the carpet because the tile sits too high.

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arconstruction

i can tell u dont know this so dont try it hire a tile guy to "WET SET" the tiles with a cement ....This is a proper method and is the mix is the correct mixture it will come out purfect expect to pay $5-7 persqft ....this is how marble and stone that are rough are set ...

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Mike Finley

Now what would stop a guy from thinseting and then installing 1/2 underlayment with tapcons on a concrete floor if he really wanted to do it?

G-Build

To a select few. Just because someone asks a question doesn't mean they don't know what their doing. Moms didn't teach us condesending sarcasm was how to make freinds. [sorry... my ex always said i was to sensitive].
Anywho... The carpet going down will be berber over a quality padding. Very limited crush. So there CAN be a smooth transition using an edge profile. I was just wondering if there was a product out there that didn't require mechanical fastening. A thicker version of Ditra? I thought i saw a post that mentioned something like this.

Floordude

The quality pad does not even come close to being in the thickness equation.

You have a 1/4" if that of tackstrip thickness, not the padding, to figure. Loop pile carpets, Berber as you are calling it, are very thin in profile height. The carpet does not butt to the tile. It gets tucked or rolled along the edge.

When tiles are set upstairs on wood, with CBU, I'm ramping under the carpet to raise it.

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Brock

common sense.

Obviously a guy could do it. There are ways to fasten just about anything to concrete. The correct way to add height to concrete is more concrete or compound.

Bill_Vincent

Not for nothing, but I've used as big
as a 1/2" wide by 3/4" deep notched trowel for large format tile.

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Railman

I highly recommend listening to FLOORDUDE! All of his points are a matter of fact. He knows flooring.

1)You definitely want the carpet to be a little proud of the hard edge on the tile. If carpet is not proud at least 3/16" or so, it'll be a toe buster, or at least uncomfortable when stepped on.

2)There is no pad under the carpet at the transition...usually just a 1/4" tackless, with tucked edge.

3) Tile will be in the range of 3/4" +-

4) Carpet will be 1/4" (tackless) + 3/8? = 3/4" +-

If anything the carpet will need to be raised!

Funny thing is, I was recently in a home where the HO just finished his basement, & had the same transition at a wet bar. His problem was that the tile was above the carpet (berber) about 1/8" in a few spots, & was trying to figure out what to do with it. His main concern was stubbed toes, & tripping! Leave the carpet proud!
Joe