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Old 02-18-2011, 07:02 PM   #1
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My Grout Is Different Colors?


Just installed some tile in a small bath. after grout dried it was differant colors. Homeowner loves it, lol. they asked how did you get it to look so awesome.

of course i didnt mean for it to be. obviously something went wrong, I just dont know what it is.

I am not a tile guy everyday but probley have installed 20 or 30 times. never had this happen

Any thoughts?
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Old 02-18-2011, 07:06 PM   #2
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Wanna give us a clue to what grout you used?

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Old 02-18-2011, 07:09 PM   #3
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polyblend, sanded. dont remember color but it was dark, like a chocolate color
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Every time I hear of a grout problem invariably it's about Polyblend. I don't recall having a problem with the colors I've used through the years, but many people have.

When grout comes out blotchy, we usually blame the person doing the grouting. It's usually because too much water was used, either in the mix or more likely in the initial washing method. Sometimes it's because of hot-spots in the floor. Many factors. I put my money on too much washing, too soon.

But since they liked the blotchy color, did you ask if you could have a "hit" of whatever they were smokin?

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Every time I hear of a grout problem invariably it's about Polyblend. I don't recall having a problem with the colors I've used through the years, but many people have.

When grout comes out blotchy, we usually blame the person doing the grouting. It's usually because too much water was used, either in the mix or more likely in the initial washing method. Sometimes it's because of hot-spots in the floor. Many factors. I put my money on too much washing, too soon.

But since they liked the blotchy color, did you ask if you could have a "hit" of whatever they were smokin?

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I figured i did something wrong. LOL Got wicked lucky that they liked it.
I might of worked the lines too soon, good to know
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That is one of many reasons why I have quit using portland based grouts...I used them for over 15 years until I started using Spectralock Epoxy.

Never any issues with blotchy or uneven colours. Come to think of it, I have not had any grout issues at all since changing to Spectralock! The only problem I have had was a bad batch of Latiseal. Ordered Mushroom, got the Mushroom/Brown 2-tone instead! But, about a week later my rep sends me a case...no charge!
Still waiting on some free thinset to try though...maybe I better give him a call!
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That is one of many reasons why I have quit using portland based grouts...I used them for over 15 years until I started using Spectralock Epoxy.
Same thing. Got rid of cementitious grouts and problem gone!
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this is at my local lowes any good?
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this is at my local lowes any good?
Mapei has Ultracolor grout which has high hydration tech. But a downfall is its fast drying . Used it a few times loved it but u gotta move. Guaranteed no efflorecense.......never used the premix though......
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Same thing. Got rid of cementitious grouts and problem gone!
Hey Angus, do u have to go through any special steps when using epoxy grout? Haven't used it yet but I like what it offers!
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Mapei has Ultracolor grout which has high hydration tech. But a downfall is its fast drying . Used it a few times loved it but u gotta move. Guaranteed no efflorecense.......never used the premix though......
im mainly a polyblend guy, but im very tired off the poor results I get from it, even when following the instructions to a tee. I keep hearing about epoxy grout and I want to use it. I did price it out, it is expensive, but Im after for the results and I hate sealing, its such PITA in my opinion.

ultra color is still a cementitious grout?
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this is at my local lowes any good?
Yes, Opticolor is very good epoxy grout! Right up there with SpectraLOCK.
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Hey Angus, do u have to go through any special steps when using epoxy grout? Haven't used it yet but I like what it offers!
You are asking the wrong guy! (no offense Angus!)

I can give you some info on epoxy, SpectraLock to be exact. And I know Angus has used it but I also know he is the definate go-to guy for urethane expertise.

You are not too far away from me. Do you have a Floor Acc or Brolain in Windsor? They stock Laticrete and they're customer service is really good.

As far as epoxy goes, I find it much easier to use than portland.
Is their a learning curve?...sure, about 2 jobs. Its "different" than portland and I haved learned a few tricks to ensure well done jobs.

btw, I have yet to try the urethane mainly due to supply issues. The rep for Ontario just called me last week to tell me a local retailer now stocks it. Can't say I want to be buying grout from a retailer! But, I'd like to at least try it out
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Hey Angus, do u have to go through any special steps when using epoxy grout? Haven't used it yet but I like what it offers!

I'll leave the instructions to those that use it often. I prefer urethane grout. Unless I have a commercial application, all I use is QuartzLock 2 (or StarGlass).

MY review of grout:
Cementitious pros:
cheap
availability
easy sell
no special tools necessary
Cementitious cons:
old technology
stain-able
susceptible to cracking
can be over-washed easily
needs regular sealing
hard to clean once stained
efflorescent-prone
not color consistent

Epoxy pros:
stain resistant
no sealing necessary
multiple manufacturers produce
availability commonplace
color consistent
very low permeability
Epoxy cons:
cost
possible tricky installation
special float necessary
haze hard to remove
contains BPAs
can cause allergic reactions
brittle
can have lots of waste
susceptible to UV yellowing

Urethane pros:
stain resistant
no sealing necessary
color consistent
very low permeability
easy installation/easy clean up
no user mixing errors
long shelf life
remains pliable
Urethane cons:
cost
special float necessary
availability
cure time in wet locations
installation not typical and can be messed up if directions aren't followed properly*


*the directions are simple; just READ them

I'm sure other will chime in and (flame me) add anything I missed.
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btw, I have yet to try the urethane mainly due to supply issues.

I called you weeks ago (left a message), PM'd you here and I believe even emailed you about urethane. I was gonna have a sample sent to you for comparing.
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why is urethane easier to clean?
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why is urethane easier to clean?

Chemistry, my dear Watson!

You don't wait to wash. Spread the grout for about 6 sq ft & then wash immediately. No guess work on when it's too soon. It's never too soon! Just don't be late. It's about as bad as epoxy haze to remove once dried.
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Chemistry, my dear Watson!

You don't wait to wash. Spread the grout for about 6 sq ft & then wash immediately. No guess work on when it's too soon. It's never too soon! Just don't be late. It's about as bad as epoxy haze to remove once dried.
so it doesnt need a set up time like cement grouts? literally on and off like miagee san
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so it doesnt need a set up time like cement grouts? literally on and off like miagee san


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hmmmmmmmmmmmm i r intrigued

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