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Old 05-07-2013, 07:29 AM   #61
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I hear WEDI is much stiffer because of the cement outer surface.
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I hear WEDI is much stiffer because of the cement outer surface.
It is a little stiffer.
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Kerdi / Wedi  Vs. Traditional-image.jpg Wedi is really a great product for shower area waterproofing protection . The cost my be little more but the time to start tile work Starts almost right away . I do think if they lower price per sheet a lot more people would use it . And carry 36" curbs to would help . So don't have to buy 48" .
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I do think if they lower price per sheet a lot more people would use it . And carry 36" curbs to would help . So don't have to buy 48" .


I agree! They could take over the market if they dropped the price 15-20%.
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Not many people in this area use either though. Tile over drywall with mastic is the most common method.
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It never ceases to amaze me. Looked at a bathroom yesterday. Travertine over drywall with mastic, in a shower. Caulked with acrylic caulk. Mould everywhere. Owner's had it recaulked a couple times, is pretty sure that it just needs a better caulk job. I'm going to give it to one of my guys as a side job, letting the customer know there's no warranty at all, and they should expect to call me for a new shower in the next year.
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Biggest problem isn't waiting for the redaurd to dry its waiting for the mud to dry. But wedi products aren't available in my corner if the world, and to do that same shower with schluter products would have cost me 600$ more. So what does the extra time for drying matter when your getting paid 300$ per day for it. On that job I got paid to sell another.

I'm not saying my method is best, but as far as picking a one system to tile them all I feel mud to be the most versatile. I'm contemplating using a sheet product instead of liquid from now on to eliminate the waiting period. bonus of mud is one could notch it out to eliminate build up. I let y'all know how that goes next time I sell a shower.
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This is an interesting topic for me even though it's been done to death other places. These days I'm building full mud showers only. Its not really more time if you consider the big picture. Perfectly flat, plumb, squared up walls make the tile installation go much faster. When you can make every cut before you mix up thinset, spread an set. No tinkering, no scribing cuts, no wedges to make the horizontal lines from one wall to the next line up because if they are not plumb those joints can't truly line up without some sort of manipulation.

This thread is about waterproofing though. With a full mud assembly, redgaurd, mega flex and fusion pro grout, I got a lifetime system warrantee from cbp. This pic is after the first coat of redgaurd. I spend far less time mudding walls than I would shimming planeing and furring to get even close. Plus I can take the extra 700$ I would have paid for Styrofoam and stick it in my pocket. If budget were an issue I could have gone pan liner/ poly and started setting the same day I floated the walls/ pan
That is impressive hank, but I can carry 3 sheets of wedi in one trip and have pan and walls done in a couple hours and then tile base before the end of the day

I can't see you getting that done and ready to tile in less than 2 days and at least 8 hours of work

I'll make up that $700 in another little job during the week
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It is a little stiffer.
I've used the Kerdi board for 2 different showers. And I think it sucks compared to wedi. It costs me $110 a 4x8 sheet compared to $88 for KB
It is rediculus foam can cost so much!
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That is impressive hank, but I can carry 3 sheets of wedi in one trip and have pan and walls done in a couple hours and then tile base before the end of the day

I can't see you getting that done and ready to tile in less than 2 days and at least 8 hours of work

I'll make up that $700 in another little job during the week
Mud when business is slow...wedi when busy.
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I hear you srw, but what if you have to shim/ plane studs, square up walls, wet wall an absolute framing travesty? would you still get that board up in 2 hrs? I floated them walls in 3. pan took 40 min. course I had to put up lath, and scratch coat the day before. but most of that day was spent moving the drain (bath tub conversion). while I was waiting for the mud to dry to receive redgaurd I did a 400ft tile job over greenskin and sold another. didn't really lose any time.
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I've used the Kerdi board for 2 different showers. And I think it sucks compared to wedi. It costs me $110 a 4x8 sheet compared to $88 for KB
It is rediculus foam can cost so much!
interesting...

im surprised that they would differ enough to prefer one over the other

also, i figured Wedi would be cheaper than KB
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interesting...

im surprised that they would differ enough to prefer one over the other

also, i figured Wedi would be cheaper than KB
Wedi is cheaper than kerdi for me here. I ain't looked at prices lately buti think some of my wedi stuff went down in price. I will find out tomorrow. Going to pick up some more boards for a job.
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Not to did up an old thread but WOW. I was reading up on shower membranes and Wedi etc. I priced it out at over 165.00 for a 4x8-1/2" sheet.
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Not to did up an old thread but WOW. I was reading up on shower membranes and Wedi etc. I priced it out at over 165.00 for a 4x8-1/2" sheet.
Wedi is a great product. The savings is in the labor . You can tile same day .
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Not to did up an old thread but WOW. I was reading up on shower membranes and Wedi etc. I priced it out at over 165.00 for a 4x8-1/2" sheet.
That's retail. I pray $93 for a 1/2" sheet of Kerdi Board from my tile supplier.
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I don't know the price of 4x8 in Wedi, but the 3x5 is $35. I'll find out about the larger sheet later this week as I have a 4x4 shower coming up in a couple weeks.
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The cheapest way to get Materials is to buck up your $600 ($500 if you know who to go through) and join the NTCA. in addition to the great training and resources there is the $1800 worth of Manufacturer Vouchers they send you. Getting a 230% roi is like Gold.
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It is even better when you win the Schluter door prize at the local event.
32x60 Kerdi kit with drain.

I do a lot of Hybrid showers. Durock walls, mudbed, kerdi drain, cinder block or kerdi curb. Hydraflex waterproof walls, Kerdi shower floor. I find this to be the most flexible choice for me. Greg and Corey from Schluter have been making a strong case for consistently running with one system.
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The cheapest way to get Materials is to buck up your $600 ($500 if you know who to go through) and join the NTCA. in addition to the great training and resources there is the $1800 worth of Manufacturer Vouchers they send you. Getting a 230% roi is like Gold.
https://tile-assn.site-ym.com/

It is even better when you win the Schluter door prize at the local event.
32x60 Kerdi kit with drain.

I do a lot of Hybrid showers. Durock walls, mudbed, kerdi drain, cinder block or kerdi curb. Hydraflex waterproof walls, Kerdi shower floor. I find this to be the most flexible choice for me. Greg and Corey from Schluter have been making a strong case for consistently running with one system.
I just joined NARI, NTCA will be next.
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Anyone mix products like Wedi board for walls and PVC Oatey liner for basin?

Wondering if you can rabbit out the foam for the liner.
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Yes you can rabbet the Wedi panels. We were shown to do that for using over a molded shower pan or tub, to fit down over the tiling flanges.

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