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tile mason
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Installing Granite Submerged In Water
We are starting a pool job next week that calls for granite slabs installed over concrete columns in a pool bar area.
What is a good adhesive for attaching the granite slabs over the columns? They (columns and granite "seat") will be submerged in water. We're using Custom's flexbond to attach the glass tile in the whole pool area. And then we're installing granite over the 4 columns at the pool bar area as to make stools to sit on.
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
Isn't it a little cool to be swimming to work?
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Tile Contractor
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
I would get that information from Custom. I would also kerf a 2" grid (1/8"w X 1/4"d min) on the bottom/backside of all the granite slabs.
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
Matt, be sure to post some pics!
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
i know concrete cures the best underwater. cement products dont have to dry out, water just activates the chemicals, but yes I would find out through custom what is best
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tile mason
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
The pool is new construction.
No water in it yet. They're not filling it till all the glass and granite get installed. Just wondering what would be good adhesive to hold 3 cm granite seats to concrete columns. Eventually, after installation, they would be submerged in water.
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The Duke
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
Would silicone work in this case?
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
how about mechanical fasterners with epoxy?
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tile contractor
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
What's the substrate?
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Tile Contractor
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
"granite slabs installed over concrete columns"
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
I missed that.
One of two products. Either Laticrete 4237 with a 50/50 mix of portland cement and silica sand, or Anybody's unmodified thinset mixed with their additive (Laticrete 317/333, Hydroment Tilemate/ Flexalastic, Mapei's Kerabond/ Keralastic). Either of those will hold up, as well as be guaranteed by the manufacturer. I've done competition pools both with the 317/333 and the 4237 and cement/ sand mix.
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tile mason
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
We're actually gonna use The Tile Shop's "Pro Lastic" mortar mixed with it's liquid additive counterpart.
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
Same same. It's still unmodified mixed with a liquid latex. You should be fine with that.
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
Bill, the latex additive to unmodified seems fine but how come some showers get latex migration and a swimming pool doesn't? does it depend on the drying or is it because it's unmodified mix with latex vs a modified?
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Re: Installing Granite Submerged In Water
The only time you should have a chance of latex migration is when the thinset isn't fully dried when the tile gets grouted, no matter where it is.
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