How Long To Warranty Grout In A Shower Wall Application

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-18-2008, 11:44 AM   #1
Registered User
 
hkcon's Avatar
 
Trade: general
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2

How Long To Warranty Grout In A Shower Wall Application


Hey everybody, I have been doing tile work, (small jobs, floors and walls in bathrooms and kitchens) for around 5 years now, and on a job I did around 4 years ago the client has called me and wants me to warranty the grout as it is cracking and she says is causing a leak down below in the kitchen. I haven't returned her call yet, as I am inclined to say no but I wanted to hear what you all thought about it. I would love to get a consensus on this. I am in Northern Ca. bay area by the way.

hkcon is offline  
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 09-18-2008, 12:26 PM   #2
Knowledge Factory
 
Floordude's Avatar
 
Trade: Certified Floorcovering Failure Investigator
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,358

Re: How Long To Warranty Grout In A Shower Wall Application


Grout does not prevent water from seeping. It is what was done before the tiles, that keeps water in the shower stall, not the grout.
__________________
**Education is the key to success. Learn more, earn more.**
http://www.AustinFloorguy.com
Floordude is offline  
Old 09-18-2008, 04:29 PM   #3
"da Whale don't hesitate"
 
PrecisionFloors's Avatar
 
Trade: Hard Surface Flooring
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 2,341

Re: How Long To Warranty Grout In A Shower Wall Application


Yup, you have way bigger problems than grout. So....what does your contract say about your warranty?? (you do have one right?) What does the republic of California's laws state concerning warranty period for work performed??

I'd be willing to bet that this installation will need a tear-out and re-do to fix, as do most leaky showers. By the time there's evidence of a leak downstairs, it's a good chance the damage is much greater than can be seen. Also keep in mind that it could be a leaky pipe or plumbing fixture. I would have a contract this time that covers you for ALL work done in that circumstance....It would suck to tear out a good shower for free to fix a pipe
__________________
Precision Flooring
(772) 237-9900
Tile, Hardwood, Laminate, and Resilient
Installation, Sales & Repair - "We do it right the FIRST time"
PrecisionFloors is online now  
Old 09-18-2008, 05:56 PM   #4
Tile Contractor
 
Bud Cline's Avatar
 
Trade: Building Trades-Specializing in Ceramic Tile
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hastings Nebraska
Posts: 1,216

Re: How Long To Warranty Grout In A Shower Wall Application


Warrantees against cracking grout can't go on endlessly. Too many structural issues can arise that could cause grout to crack. A little crack in some grout shouldn't mean a leak anyway. Grout is not at all waterproof.

Go see what the leak is all about. It may not even be your problem if it is coming from inside the walls. If the shower envelope its self is leaking then I'd say you have a problem. A shower should last beyond four years.
Bud Cline is offline  
Old 09-18-2008, 10:47 PM   #5
Registered User
 
hkcon's Avatar
 
Trade: general
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2

Re: How Long To Warranty Grout In A Shower Wall Application


ty everybody,
I will go over there and take a look, I feel more confident about it now. She e-mailed me and told me that the ceiling is open under neath and the framing is all wet. I have a bad feeling she had a plumbing leak, got it reparied and is now going to try and get the rest done for free by blaming it on the grout issue. I absolutely prepped the job correctly with 30 lb felt behind durock and it was lapped down on the shower pan, that is why I asked the question about the grout. Thanks again for your help and I am glad I found this site. I hope to talk to you guys again.
hkcon is offline  
Old 09-18-2008, 10:54 PM   #6
classic muscle
 
rsss396375's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor Tile Contractor
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Kelseyville, CA
Posts: 62

Re: How Long To Warranty Grout In A Shower Wall Application


That's a tough one because the water could be coming from a few places. Some of the obvious concerns would be drain, hot and cold water lines, exterior water (winter only). I don't think a cracking grout would cause enough water to come through a ceiling, just not enough soak time in a shower. (I assume a shower) If the water only can be traced back to when the shower is activly being used, I would lean heavily to a leaking p-trap or waste line connection. I would begin by tearing the drywall out in the kitchen and running the water. If any of your findings reveal that it was not your fault, then the owner "shall" pay all costs for your work or any further costs incurred by another.
Ask her if there has been any further construction near your tile job in the past 4 year period.
Now that I think about it, you may want to replace any bad grout and see if that helps. If not, then go the drywall. May be the cheapest to start.

Last edited by rsss396375; 09-19-2008 at 12:47 AM.
rsss396375 is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Does fireplace opening in block wall opening need support? Square-One Masonry 6 11-22-2008 02:31 AM
removing a retaining wall Cache Excavation & Site Work 30 07-16-2008 05:57 PM
Shower basin question pknyryan Flooring 57 02-08-2008 07:50 AM
grout against the wall MattCoops Ceramic & Stone Tile 4 04-25-2006 11:48 AM
Does fireplace opening in block wall opening need support? Square-One Construction 1 02-28-2006 01:59 AM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Privacy Badge
I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
ContractorTalk.com is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At ContractorTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?