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Old 03-05-2011, 08:18 PM   #1
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I have seen alot of you guys like epoxy grout in showers. Is that because there is no maintainance involved as far as sealing goes. Is it ok to use a cementious grout in showers? how often should you reseal it?
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That's correct, no sealing and no staining. Are you going to go back and seal their grout for the rest of your life?

One of the most common complaints I've heard from customers is that their grout is stained.

In bathroom work I will only use epoxy or urethane grout. I don't give the customer the choice of using normal grout.

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LATICRETE permacolor is a great grout with low worrys of keeping up. But epoxy is a top notch grout as well.


I have switched to permacolor grout for all my installs its just 24 bucks a bag and is worth every penny
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I have seen alot of you guys like epoxy grout in showers. Is that because there is no maintainance involved as far as sealing goes. Is it ok to use a cementious grout in showers? how often should you reseal it?

Doesn't make much sense to spend the time and effort to waterproof a shower, do a beautiful tile install and then ruin it by cheapening out and using portland grout.

Cementitious grout has been the weak link in tile installations for years. How many folks had you heard say they don't want tile because of the grout issues? Use a quality grout and don't worry about it.
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see my pumpkin head even agrees

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hey i speak a english.............now I have to pay the kid next door to translate that
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DIY is why.

Epoxy is the only way to seal it up with out worrying about maintenance to keep it sealed. You cant control a customer in the future, but they sure will come after you.
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Epoxy just looks like it would take FOREVER to clean up. That laticrete permacolor is just high quality cementious grout? You still have to seal it right?, but it won't mildew or stain? I'm going to do a little reading on urethane grout. Is it easier to deal with than epoxy?
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Epoxy just looks like it would take FOREVER to clean up. That laticrete permacolor is just high quality cementious grout? You still have to seal it right?, but it won't mildew or stain? I'm going to do a little reading on urethane grout. Is it easier to deal with than epoxy?
Epoxy is a b$*ch and tough to work with... Gary, my Laticrete rep told me that you don't have to seal Permacolor and they will warranty the whole job as long as you use their setting materials
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The new epoxy is easy to use by laticrete. very easy to clean up and a no sag formula
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Portland grout:

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oh angus i love you in red...............haha i am gonna get some quartz grout and test it out
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My laticrete rep, Gary Jones is one hell of a great guy. He came to my house and went over all the products with me and warranties...
For a shower install the lifetime procedure is:
254 Platinum slurry coat
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And permacolor or SL grout

That will cover the contract price of the job and the owner can transfer the paperwork if they sell the house. I am remodeling my bath with the laticrete system and Gary is coming to lend a hand and offer more knowledge... doesn't get much better than that!
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gee now you have blue blood...............I have a LATICRETE tattoo........the best part a of a good rep is sharing thier brain
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Epoxy is a b$*ch and tough to work with... Gary, my Laticrete rep told me that you don't have to seal Permacolor and they will warranty the whole job as long as you use their setting materials
I have been using laticrete spectralock epoxy exclusively for 5+ years. I thought the same thing before I used it. But, I gotta tell ya, after a couple of jobs, I find it easier to install and clean up vs. Portland based grouts.
I never have any issues with too much water in the mix or clean-up, no problems with blotchiness, no issues at all!
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I have been using laticrete spectralock epoxy exclusively for 5+ years. I thought the same thing before I used it. But, I gotta tell ya, after a couple of jobs, I find it easier to install and clean up vs. Portland based grouts.
I never have any issues with too much water in the mix or clean-up, no problems with blotchiness, no issues at all!
I had a bad allergic reaction to sl and put me out for a couple days....i will sell sl but have to sub out the grouting, otherwise, permacolor
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DO these items mix like traditional 5-1 ratio typed dry packs? or are they something a little different?


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I had a bad allergic reaction to sl and put me out for a couple days....i will sell sl but have to sub out the grouting, otherwise, permacolor
That's too bad, I have heard of a few other people who are alergic. You could always try Angus's grout of choice...urethane

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