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Old 06-29-2015, 06:52 AM   #21
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you would have the same experience with any of the newer grouts. And with the room so warm the grout will dry faster on the tile.

First, sealing the stone is important,imo. These new grouts can get into micro pores and textured tiles easily. That is a drawback. So seal a tile and do a test sample. You might prefer the cement grout better for that particular job.

Make sure to pre-wet the tile before grouting. I use a spray bottle and mist the tile. (I haven't tried it but a drop or two of dish detergent may help as soap is a wetting agent.)

Rob's advice advice applies to all the new grouts. White scrubby to loosen the surface grout then wipe with sponge and microfiber towel. The Fusion directions are lacking in those tips.

You might still feel a rough surface of some type after grouting. I've hit the tile with a fine sponge sanding pad to knock that off. I wouldn't do that on polish stone,btw.

Always have your extra water ready. These grouts like clean water more than cement grouts.

Finally, pick the grout to suit the application. You might like cement grout better for some tiles and the newer grouts for other times.
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I'm using Fusion Pro on a job now.

I put 2 drops of Dawn dish detergent in a 32 oz. spray bottle. Then I lightly mist the area (about 10sqft) I'm doing before grouting. It seemed to spread and clean easier. I have more to do but I thought maybe some of you guys would like to try it and comment.

For as little soap as I use, I doubt that it would affect the grouts performance. But I'll ask someone at Customs when I get some time.

BTW, I haven't needed the white scrubby. Either it's the tile surface being easy to clean or the soap. Either way, it's ok with me.

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I've used it and if you're even a somewhat competent finisher, it's a nobrainer. Read the directions, looked at the video and realized it was a ten minutes of my life I'll not be able to get back. Not sure to do with the microfiber towels. Maybe I can use them to clean guns with.
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Not sure to do with the microfiber towels. Maybe I can use them to clean guns with.
You pretty much refuse to embrace anything that is different from the way you always do things. I've gathered this from hundreds of your posts, not just this one. I'm just curious how you would have every learned your way in the first place with that attitude? I totally get the whole "this is what I'm comfortable with and how I do things" mentality. What I don't get is the belittling of anything remotely different from your way. Maybe I'm reading you wrong and if so, I apologize, but you come across as arrogant as hell and secure in the notion that you'll never learn another way to do something. Just an fyi - totally worth what you paid for it
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If you've used Fusion more than once and in an area bigger than 25sqft, you'd get that saving time is important. Don't know why you need a microfiber towel? Leads me to believe you have limited experience with the product. Microfiber towels are the go to for that final bit of shine on the tile( and for any type of grout, btw.)

Perhaps you missed the point of my suggestion. If you can produce the job with a better result in less time, that's a win in my book. I've just asked other setters to try it and see if they get the same results. Maybe yes, maybe no. So we'll see. Try to keep an open mind.
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You pretty much refuse to embrace anything that is different from the way you always do things.
I have used fusion, as I said. And I even watched the vids, went to websites, got their data sheets, the whole thing. I got everything ready, per the mfgr, but other than doing it like I'd do unfilled porous stone on a hot day, I didn't think there was a lot of difference to it.

As finishers adjust their mix/shape/wash/time depending on what they're about to do, they should quickly catch on to this, like I said. And no need for those microfiber towels, nor scratch pads, but both of those have been sold to people as grouting tools. I've never used them, nor know anyone that has, so like I said, I saw no need. I didn't need them here, so the pads I got a refund on, but the microfibers were opened, so I'll use them for something else, other than sticking to the skin on my hands.

I have used the plastics and the fabrics, but it's not all I use as they are for a time and a place. I've even used liquids since they were black and did a unit last week that used liquid/fabric...strictly because of a timing issue.

My background is to show up on a job and use whatever is there on the pallets, so I've used a lot of different things and brands....thus not a lot of brand loyalty. Some gadgets speed things up sometimes, others no difference, others slow ya down and/or make it harder.

I do what I do and comment here and there mostly because of sometimes there's a tone of 'unless one uses this manufacturer/item, it'll fail'. This trade has turned into being manufacturer driven, and therefore, a lot of the new people in it just repeat what the marketing slogans are. Widgets people buy are a replacement for knowledge and experience a lot of times. People spend a lot of time and energy chasing those new fishing lures instead of just learning how to fish.
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I have no brand loyalty. I like a few different brand. But I guarantee I can get a cleaner finish faster using my method over yours. I guarantee I'll have zero haze. I use them because they make a huge difference in time and final product. If you don't know how to use them to your advantage don't for a minute think there is a lack there of.
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But I guarantee I can get a cleaner finish faster using my method over yours. I guarantee I'll have zero haze.
Rob, you're such a dork sometimes. I rarely have had a problem with haze, but when I did, it was a simple, easy remedy. As far as leaving a high glossy finish, rarely is that required in new const/commercial because the building will go on after you're gone, then they'll bring in a bunch of mexicans to clean everything up when everyone is punched out and done. But the times when a higher initial finish is asked for, that also is a simple remedy.

There are "tips and tricks" I don't share as these were what separated us from others a lot of times, they helped us with our speed and efficiency and that's why we got the jobs and that's how we could make money doing the jobs that others often could get, but not make any money doing. One of the reasons I rarely tell someone how to do something. One of them. But I do stick tidbits in now and then.....
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Rob, you're such a dork sometimes.
I'm a dork all of the time.

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