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Old 08-21-2017, 11:02 PM   #1
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Installed about 800 sq ft of sites heat and noticed the fleece back was a little harder to get thinset (modified over plywood) to glue it down. even presoaking floor a little more didn't help. Even got it so runny I didn't like it. Even when I turned my back on the end of it. It tended to pop up were the curve of the roll had a little bit of memory. I would go back peel it up and it had plenty of coverage on fleece and floor but seemed dried up. I slopped some fresh wetter then usual thinset and pushed it back down. The bubble in the mat would seem to lay flat after that. But I kept having to re wet-thinset those ends about 10min after first install of that area.

I realized the fleece was like twice as thick as regular ditra (never had a problem with it) is there a reason for the thicker fleece? Is it just me?

P.s. I'm a super loyal schluter fan so (I like how they have ran their company and have been very very loyal to contractors directly) so it's not a matter of using some other membrane. Besides they are all following the leader anyways.
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Which Ditra Heat mat? The white fleece (Ditra Heat mat)or gray fleece (Ditra Heat Duo)?

If it is the (gray) Duo, it is a sound dampener and if used over concrete insulation. I can attest it really does work on sound.

If it's the white fleece you use the Ditra trowel with the thin set mixed slightly loose. If it is the gray fleece you need to use a 1/4x1/4" trowel with the thin set slightly loose.

Dampening the floor (as you did) is a must.

I finally got the Schluter roller, it's great.

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Did you call your rep?


If the Fleece is much thicker than normal (ditra heat) that would be my first to do.
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If the Fleece is much thicker than normal (ditra heat) that would be my first to do.
The Ditra Duo Heat is about 1/8" thicker than the normal Ditra Heat mat fleece.

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This is the Ditra Heat Duo mat. You can see how heavy the fleece is. It is also much more orange than the standard Ditra.

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Which Ditra Heat mat? The white fleece (Ditra Heat mat)or gray fleece (Ditra Heat Duo)?

If it is the (gray) Duo, it is a sound dampener and if used over concrete insulation. I can attest it really does work on sound.

If it's the white fleece you use the Ditra trowel with the thin set mixed slightly loose. If it is the gray fleece you need to use a 1/4x1/4" trowel with the thin set slightly loose.

Dampening the floor (as you did) is a must.

I finally got the Schluter roller, it's great.

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It's the white. I didn't know about the duo.

Used the ditra trowel. And looser then I would like.

They said at one of the training courses you can put down two layers of ditra to reduce sound transmission greatly. Have not had a need for that yet.

Last week when I was installing it i thought . This would have been a great job to have the roller.........but I didn't think about it before.

I did think about inventing a serrated squeegee to speed up the gig.
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If the Fleece is much thicker than normal (ditra heat) that would be my first to do.
No. There is a newer guy for this area. It's been almost a year since I did tile as other projects haven't required it.

The two for this area use to be Don corliss. But he is the corporate training for the big classes now. Then it was a fella out of Washington (name escapes me at the moment) and now another dude. Have yet to meet.
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This is the Ditra Heat Duo mat. You can see how heavy the fleece is. It is also much more orange than the standard Ditra.

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Hahaha. I was thinking how lazy you were to use a track saw instead of a knife. Then I thought no that's sorta genius!
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Hahaha. I was thinking how lazy you were to use a track saw instead of a knife. Then I thought no that's sorta genius!
There are very few things I don't cut with the track saw.

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There are very few things I don't cut with the track saw.

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What are the row of holes in your track. I just got one the other day and my track doesn't have holes.
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What are the row of holes in your track. I just got one the other day and my track doesn't have holes.
The holes are spaced 32mm apart. There is a "tool" that attaches to a router and runs along the track. You'll notice the number has an LR 32 suffix. This allows you to drill holes for cabinet work.

You received the proper track with your new saw. The holey rails are an option, they come in 55" and 90" lengths.

If you use cement board, get the CMT PCD blade for your TS. The TS connected to a CT is the absolute best way to cut "cement" type building products. Both interior and exterior products.

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What are the row of holes in your track. I just got one the other day and my track doesn't have holes.
LR32 system "holey" rail. It's for drilling for shelf pins.
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There are very few things I don't cut with the track saw.

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So like your sandwiches?
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So like your sandwiches?
Ripped and cross cut...

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