[wopachop]

hahaha bud....i know man i suck at explaining things im sorry guys.

yes that is the bench in the picture. i was told by the hop mop owner that the bench needs to be finished with lath and mortar. but im using densShield backer board on the walls.

so my question was how do i transition the two....and how do i attach the lath without stapling through the hop mop?

most you pros dont use backer board so i know this sounds stupid...but how would you build a bench when using backer board on the walls?

again im sorry wish i could explain this all better

[Bud Cline]

I guess I don't know how you let it get this far without knowing what you were going to do! Just cover the sucker with backerboard and RedGard all the seams and fastener penetrations. You have to do that anyway. The holes in the bench (hot mop) won't matter. You paid $325 for that tar-job ONLY??? Jesus I'm in the wrong business!

[wopachop]

i know man...at first i thought i could use densShield and redguard for the bench.

then the hot mop guy says no you need to lath and mud so i was like oh eff!!!

but i called the densShield rep and he said yes you can use it for a bench...so thats what i will do. thanks for the reply bud and everyone i learned alot on this and other sections.

peace out everyone maybe ill post up a pic when done. this will be my first glass tile installation can wait to see it all done

[kevjob]

Read all manufacturer instructions for setting their glass tiles!!!

[rsss396375]

[quote=wopachop;599248]man lots of talented people here wish someone could help with da bench....i just keep reading "i only kerdi". next bath i will try that too but could really use advice on the bench

down here in cali Lowes sells densGuard in 32" wide and its blue. tile store sells densShield in 48" wide and its grey.

can anyone give advice on how to float this bench?

should i not even staple the lath?

cx on john forum said i could bend the lath up above the bench and staple it there....but then i will have to shim out the densShield over the lath. that wont work for me cause i need to be at the same distance out from the wall as the drywall still on the wall.

No offense should be taken on my comment......but you need to sub this out to a professional (tile setter) or equivilant. You are guessing and grabbing at several different ideas, none of which make much sense. They are telling you to use Kerdi right now!!!! Your comment on floating I believe is a question on how to waterproof the wood framing.
We use Red Guard over kiln dried studs or dry PT, 3/4" CDX, then 1/4" CBU, then Kerdi. It's a little over kill, but I want to know its sealed from standing water. As far as the walls, CBU and Kerdi should provide protection.

[wopachop]

i cant kerdi brotha the hot mop is already done. really want to try it for the next bathroom though.

the question on the bench was not about waterproofing the wood framing...that was done by the hot mop.

i was just trying to figure out how to float the bench with fat mud and then transition to a densShield wall.

but decided to just densShield the bench and then waterproof the hell outta it. so i didnt even need to have the bench hop moped. im still learning but places like this really help alot...thanks guys!!!!

[HS345]

We use Red Guard over kiln dried studs or dry PT, 3/4" CDX, then 1/4" CBU, then Kerdi. It's a little over kill, but I want to know its sealed from standing water. As far as the walls, CBU and Kerdi should provide protection.

Are you saying you actually paint the studs with redgard, then hang 3/4" plywood, then 1/4" hardi, then Kerdi? On walls?

You're kidding, right?

[Bud Cline]

Sometimes this place is better than SNL. In fact, most times it is funnier.

[Winchester]

Originally Posted by kevjob

Jarvis, easyboard by itself flexes too much for my liking but after it gets kerdi it becomes rigid. No down side yet especially carrying all 6 sheets with one hand.

only thing that bugs me about denshield is 32 inches wide where alot of showers I do are 36 inches.

I often get it in 4x8 sheets

[sk071077]

Originally Posted by jarvis design

Heres the final product

That tile ceiling looks awesome! Do you use regular thinset for ceilings?

[R&D Tile]

Modified thinset and a few tricks if heavy tile.

[jarvis design]

Originally Posted by sk071077

That tile ceiling looks awesome! Do you use regular thinset for ceilings?

I installed concrete board then Kerdi on the ceiling and used unmodified thinset.

A little note - I put a 2" slope on the ceiling (over 4') to allow the water droplets to run off rather than drip. Found out after I should have sloped it about 4" - water still drips.

[R&D Tile]

Is that a steam shower? didn't see any steam outlets.

If not, how is water droplets getting on the ceiling?

[jarvis design]

Originally Posted by R&D Tile

Is that a steam shower? didn't see any steam outlets.

If not, how is water droplets getting on the ceiling?

Yes, it is a steam shower.

[jasdco]

For the bench I use 3/4" plywood, then Easy Board, then 3 layers (probably overkill) of Red Guard. It's easy to do and never had a problem. Make sure that you Red Guard up the walls a foot or so, and all the way down to the floor (over the liner).

[CO762]

I agree, might want to sub this one out.

[CO762]

Originally Posted by dave peffer

Hot Mopping? I have never seen any tile man waterproof a shower using this method.

it's a california---roofer thing.....

This thread has to be a joke. No serious tradesman would go this route.
Whatever!!!

Sort of belittling of you, no?

[CO762]

Originally Posted by wopachop

i know its not the best way but im going to use densShield and redgaurd on the walls...

Don't fall for the bs that "Brand X is THE BEST WAY" that happens a lot.
Denshield will be fine. I'm sure there are millions of units that have it and I've not read about millions of failures this this product.
Redgard is also fine. If you are at la casa depot/home depot, get that.
If you are at lowes, get aquadefense. $39/pail.

I don't know what the regs are out in ca, but I'm sure they are different than in most states. If you don't have to use mud for your bench, just use the densguard, like on the walls. I use tape and goo (redguard/aqua/etc.) on all 90s. Over finished joints,I usually run a coat of goo over those also.

[angus242]

Originally Posted by CO762

Don't fall for the bs that "Brand X is THE BEST WAY" that happens a lot.
Denshield will be fine. I'm sure there are millions of units that have it and I've not read about millions of failures this this product.
Redgard is also fine. If you are at la casa depot/home depot, get that.
If you are at lowes, get aquadefense. $39/pail.

I don't know what the regs are out in ca, but I'm sure they are different than in most states. If you don't have to use mud for your bench, just use the densguard, like on the walls. I use tape and goo (redguard/aqua/etc.) on all 90s. Over finished joints,I usually run a coat of goo over those also.

You know the OP is 14 months old......

[wopachop]

Originally Posted by angus242

You know the OP is 14 months old......

Hey i like the way this forum does the insert image feature.