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Old 09-05-2017, 01:48 PM   #1
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Bathroom Tile Layout


I'm tiling my bathroom walls with 12x24 Home Depot porcelain tile.

I've created a layout with a 25% offset to create that "subway tile" look.

My layout attempts to do the following:
1. Maximize the number of full tiles
2. Eliminate small tile cuts wherever possible (the smallest tile cuts end up being like 9.5".)
3. All spacing is taken into account - both tile spacers and tile and grout thickness for corners

I move the center of the wall by 5-10% to accomplish the above. By center I mean where the center tile sits.

Any other things I should be thinking about? This is more complicated than I initially thought it would be.

If my question should be in another sub forum please let me know.

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Re: Bathroom Tile Layout


Also would a smaller offset help with the doming issue?


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If the tile has any bow you should be doing 1/3 not 1/4.
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If the tile has any bow you should be doing 1/3 not 1/4.


Why is that? I thought the lower the offset the further the center would be from the edges of the adjacent tile.






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You are over thinking it. go 1/3 offset coming off the primary sight line (what you see when you open the door and look in.)

Lay it out so you are about even at the back wall and the doorway. If you are doing 12x24 they are usually somewhere around 23 13/16" so cut at 7 15/16 for your 1/3 tile the other will end up 15 7/8 use a: 1/3, 2/3, Full, from the primary sight line. what ever it happens to be along toilet/vanity wet wall is fine. This will give you the best look. if you have a vanity, base your patern on what ever is the most manageable "L" cut at that corner to determine which tile you need to start with.
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. If you are doing 12x24 they are usually somewhere around 23 13/16" sl


You are right - 11 3/4" x 23 1/2".

Thanks for pointing out the size inconsistency!!!


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Re: Bathroom Tile Layout


Started tiling using a 1/3 running bond pattern.


Seems pretty level throughout.
Some corners have ridges, I think that's because I back buttered some corners better than others.

I wiped off most of thinset from the tile with a warm wet sponge. I used a taping knife to clean the thinset from the grout joints. Is a more thorough cleaning required?

My plan is to layout all the whole pieces first then come back to install the cut pieces. I've got a 10" tilesaw.





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12x24 I'd be using a leveling system, but it might not help much if they're bowed(which most HD crap is). You should also get some good shims, those look like the cheap QEP shims that aren't consistent and will actually crush a fair bit. Look into something like the Barwalt horseshoe shims. They are so much easier to work with.
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Should have primed before tiling.....
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Should have primed before tiling.....


Tom, by prime do you mean paint? I've already primed and painted the walls where paint is going.


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Seems pretty level throughout.

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Seems pretty level? It either is or isn't.
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12x24 I'd be using a leveling system, but it might not help much if they're bowed(which most HD crap is). You should also get some good shims, those look like the cheap QEP shims that aren't consistent and will actually crush a fair bit. Look into something like the Barwalt horseshoe shims. They are so much easier to work with.


Yeah they are qep shims. I found some horseshoe shims on Amazon. Ordered em.

What kind of leveling system do you recommend?

Thx!!


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Yeah they are qep shims. I found some horseshoe shims on Amazon. Ordered em.

What kind of leveling system do you recommend?

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Seems pretty level? It either is or isn't.


It's definitely not perfect. There are some ridges in certain spots.


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When ever I do large format we do 1/3rd 2/3rd full tile seems you only have 1/3rd then full tile. if that makes sense.
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When ever I do large format we do 1/3rd 2/3rd full tile seems you only have 1/3rd then full tile. if that makes sense.

This is what I thought a 1/3 offset was - this is my first tile job so I don't know jack and I'm happy to take advice...






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Tom, by prime do you mean paint? I've already primed and painted the walls where paint is going.

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He was referring to the drywall under the tile.

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Seems pretty level? It either is or isn't.
When you said level I assume you meant horizontaly, what you mean is flat which is impossible to be level.

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This is what I thought a 1/3 offset was - this is my first tile job so I don't know jack and I'm happy to take advice...




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The pic Anderson posted is the same method I use. Every 4th row is a repeat.
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He was referring to the drywall under the tile.



When you said level I assume you meant horizontaly, what you mean is flat which is impossible to be level.



The pic Anderson posted is the same method I use. Every 4th row is a repeat.


Can I prime with regular primer? Is the purpose to provide a moisture "shield"?

It's not flat.

Is there an advantage Anderson's layout? More appealing to the eye?

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When ever I do large format we do 1/3rd 2/3rd full tile seems you only have 1/3rd then full tile. if that makes sense.


Can I switch to your 1/3, 2/3,
full tile layout on the other three walls and not look weird? I'm not going to undo what I've done already.




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