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Old 01-31-2008, 08:59 AM   #1
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Pavers $12 Or $23 Per Sq. Ft. ????????


My Est .book [ Bay Area ] says $29. Just lost the job to another for $12 S. Ft.

I don't know how They do it? That's OK I've got them for $23 before, I'm not
going to lower My prices. What is Your take please? Thanks in advance
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:25 PM   #2
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You need to give a lot more info on what your asking. There are so many variables like: What kind of pavers? what size? what brand?, etc.,

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Old 02-02-2008, 01:07 PM   #3
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wow good for you, i know guys fight themselves over here to do pavers for like 8 to 10 a s.q ft.
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If you do pavers by the sf, without regard to shape (square, curved, etc.) or the total size or what is required for base and compaction, a estimating is only a guide to a "ballpark" estimate.

What happens is that if you are too low, you get a loser of a job and if you are high, you miss a job that could be profitable to the smarter guys that know their costs. - Or you could blame the "illegals".

If you think your "prices" are the only number - good luck!

Look at each job in terms of what you have to do, your labor, material and equipment rental and what you need for profit after adding in your time at your rate.

That will give you some good experience into pricing paver jobs.
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different paver is different price.It is expensive in USA maybe. In China,the paver is so cheap.
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are you talking installed price? seems about right to me, depending on the complexity of the pattern, depth of the substrate, and whether or not you are using a paver that "self-finishes" an edge or requires a lot cutting. having a flowing curve edge line adds another major time cost. I landscaped for a few years, and putting in pavers the right way takes a lot of time...and a lot of hours on the wet saw.
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If you do pavers by the sf, without regard to shape (square, curved, etc.) or the total size or what is required for base and compaction, a estimating is only a guide to a "ballpark" estimate.

What happens is that if you are too low, you get a loser of a job and if you are high, you miss a job that could be profitable to the smarter guys that know their costs. - Or you could blame the "illegals".

If you think your "prices" are the only number - good luck!

Look at each job in terms of what you have to do, your labor, material and equipment rental and what you need for profit after adding in your time at your rate.

That will give you some good experience into pricing paver jobs.


I agree


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Old 03-22-2008, 09:16 PM   #8
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12 to 15 persq ft new york
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10-15 sft in Seattle, but it also depends from how big is a patio or driveway, if you say 15sqft for 150 sft patio you gonna lose money os price go higher if you have around 1000 sft price go lower. And as it was sad before pattern, base, cutting


P.S. but to bit illigals here very hard :O(
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12-15 sq ft with mat, without excavation and concrete screenings?
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like some others said.....
take your material and labor, equipment, overhead, etc. and figure what it'll be.
divide sqft into that if they want a sqft price.
But.....
make sure they are comparing apples to apples.
same paver
same amount of base material
same edge restraint
same sand setting bed
same sand for joints
same shape of patio.
I can buy pavers for $1.00ft2 or $8.00ft2
I put in more base because of overdigs were taken into acount
I use a better quality edge restraint
I use polysand(bag) in the joints instead of mason sand(ton)
I have alot of cutting, might have to scrap alot.
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The first thing you need to do is forget about the price per square foot. You are better off never even thinking about it. To properly estimate a paver project, there are two things to consider: Materials and Man Hours.

Assuming that you already own the necessary equipment and that you have already established an hourly rate that recovers overhead, it is important that you accurately estimate the amount of man hours a project should take and then multiply those man hours by your hourly rate. Seems simple, but contractors screw it up all the time.

You should break down a job into functions:

-Excavating
-Base Install
-Screeding Sand
-Laying Pavers
-Cutting
-Installing Edging

Once you've determined all the functions that your project includes, you should associate a quantity to each. How many sq ft of pavers, how many tons of base, how many linear ft of cutting, etc. Now, if you have previously tracked the rate in which you can do each of these functions, you will be able to determine how many total man hours each will take.

So if you have 200 sq ft and historically you can install 20 sq ft per man hour, then you will spend 10 man hours installing pavers. If you have 100 LF of cuts and historically you can cut 15 LF per man hour, then you will spend 6.75 man hours cutting pavers. Once you have covered every function of the project you will have an educated estimate of just how long the project will take and how much you should charge for labor.

Remember, your first time will be nothing more than an educated guess if you haven't tracked your progress rates on prior projects, but if you start tracking these rates from now on out, you will eventually get a pretty good handle.

Hope this helps...

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In the San Francisco Bay Area we see bids between $18 per sq/ft low end cheaper paver that is sand set to $30 sq/ft for nicer pavers. Those doing for less are often not taking proper grade, drainage, compaction and borders into consideration, or they are not licensed.
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In the San Francisco Bay Area we see bids between $18 per sq/ft low end cheaper paver that is sand set to $30 sq/ft for nicer pavers. Those doing for less are often not taking proper grade, drainage, compaction and borders into consideration, or they are not licensed.
Yes, $30 sounds about right
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there is no such thing as a licensed landscaper in NY. Just a landscape architect. but it is not required to do most of these things from what I can recall.

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